Guest Rant Dec 9, 2024 at 11:18 am

Members of Seattle’s District 2 Collectively Respond to the Harrowing Mistreatment of Their Council Member

Tammy Morales finally basking in a ray of peace. Anthony Keo

Comments

1

Um, we're talking about the Seattle City Council here. Nobody's being abused. Bureaucratic put downs are not abuse. This is your democracy and government at work. It gets ugly and messy. Tammy needs to be a fighter if she is worthy of your passion.

2

As a D2 resident I am absolutely delighted that she has chosen to step down. This overblown reaction is so typical of the Stranger. All noise, no substance.

Tammy couldn’t even be bothered to reply to her constituents much less do anything for them.

What did she accomplish? More drive by shootings, the complete decimation of the CID, more traffic incidents, the highest insurance rates, rampant criminality and making Seattle look really stupid with comments like this: “I don’t see why looting bothers people”. GMAFB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k11Uwk2_YM

Good riddance, CM Morales from a lifelong Democrat. I really hope we get someone who cares about the vast majority of D2 residents, not just the criminal element.

3

"Harrowing mistreatment," ha ha ha! What happened was, Morales floating a bunch of progressive ideas that no one else was interested in, and she was shocked when they criticized her instead of bursting into rapturous applause at her progressivism. Anything short of fawning agreement, progressives call it "abuse." 😂🤣😂🤣

4

I see the disrespect and gaslighting weren't limited to the Council and directed at Morales but extend to commenters here and directed at her constituents.

5

Maybe all the organizers who contributed to this work of fiction ought to organize a farewell party for Tammy. That would be some useful organizing.

6

I understand how it can feel bad to be abandoned by your elected official when they decide to bail because their job is suddenly required to be accountable and produce actual results, but that doesn't mean that anything untoward happened here, and whining about it in The Stranger won't change anything.

7

TL/DR Version: The council should immediately change their views to reflect ours. If they don't facilitate all the policies we want they are bullies. However, shouty screamy people are heroes fighting for justice. This is not self-contradictory.

8

Does every single author in this article they/them pronouns or is that an editing error?

9

"...and directed at her constituents."

Like @2, I am one of her constituents and glad to see her go.

10

The council went to districts in 2015. Morales came in in 2019. I don't remember who represented D2 from 2015 to 2019, but there's not much of a pattern to be drawn here.

11

Where was all of this tender concern for Council Members' feelings during the decade CM Sawant spent calling them corporate shills and sellouts? Where was the concern for conducting Council business when she repeatedly cancelled committee meetings? Where was the concern for civility when Sawant hectored witnesses, and abruptly left meetings? Did any of these authors complain when Sawant led a vandalizing mob to the family home of a political opponent?

Absent any concerns these authors expressed back then about such abusive behaviors on the Council, this article simply comes across as a bitter and overwrought expression of sore-loserism.

12

@10 - back in 2016 it was hizzonor Bruce Harrell that was the D2 CM.

@4 if it makes you feel any better he was as unresponsive as Morales was IMO. At least he didn't whine about being bullied.

And talk about disrespect for your constituents - I and my neighbors have personally witnessed Tammy's blonde dog walker just leave shit on our lawns without a care. :)

I find that disrespectful to be sure.

13

@11 remember the other day when I and others said you bring up Sawant all the time unprompted and you insisted otherwise?

14

I don't see any abuse or bullying. I see disagreement and criticism. And assertions without evidence or really, assertions supported by other assertions. Morales found herself in a hostile environment? No shit. That's a good description of finding oneself in an 8-1 minority. People are going to tell you that you are wrong. A lot. Constantly. And they may even look at you sternly when they do it. If you curl up in a fetal position or just flat run away every time you're disagreed with, I'd say that's a pretty good sign you're in the wrong line of work.

15

@13: And I responded the Stranger brings her up all of the time, too, but you never object to that, perhaps because they never describe anything she actually did.

Again, Morales served on the Council with Sawant, and somehow I do not recall Morales objecting to Sawant's verbal abuses of other Council Members. Or the Stranger complaining about Sawant's verbal abuses of other Council Members, either.

16

Look, I am a progressive and a supporter of Morales but this martyrdom complex is ridiculous. The people of Seattle voted for more centrist/conservative members for City Council and being in the minority can absolutely suck, but to cry bullying is ridiculous. Now if she is having health issues, then fine, say so and step down. But stepping down while complaining that noone is supporting her policies and giving her a hard time suggests a lack of recognition of the realities and the need to compromise on policies. I was excited about Mercedes Rink's election and thought that with two progressives, something more could be achieved and now this. And yes, she did abandon her constituents and the people who voted for her.

17

TS needs to learn what abuse is and stop lying about to it happening to morals to its readers.

The article doesn’t even identify any abuse. We only get examples of abuse as:

“What did surprise [Morales], she said, was how few of [her colleagues] showed any interest in working with her at all”

“ Sara Nelson shut down Morales for raising legitimate concerns”

“ Nelson intentionally skipped a committee meeting to campaign for Morales' opponent”

These things are not abuse. They are politics. They are the politics received by someone whose governance has failed when they can’t recognize their governance has failed. BTW, Morales has shut down moderates. Morales has shut down legitimate concerns about her homeless programs not being likely to work ( they didn’t). Morales campaigns and endorses people too.

This article is all whine, no legitimate substance.

18

@8: “Does every single author in this article they/them pronouns or is that an editing error?”

Pretty sure every Morales voter uses they/them pronouns and a hyphenated last name. I’m only surprised they didn’t include their race in each of their bios. It’s a bit of a progressive faux pas not to include such a vital piece of information. 😃

19

Awww… they’re being meannnn…. Boo-fucking-hoo…

There’s a pathetic trend of progressive lawmakers citing ‘bullying,’ ‘racism,’ and/or ‘sexism’ and quitting when they don’t get whatever they want.

There was a slew of first-term ‘change the world’ legislators who didn’t run for re-election to the Legislature - where Democrats have solid majorities - because their grand ideas weren’t adopted the minute they arrived in Olympia.

Boo-fucking- hoo…

20

"battle tested"? At the first sign she's not going to get her way against a more centrist council she takes her ball and goes home. Now she knows how more right leaning members must have felt in the past.

21

Tammy ingonred the mobs that showed up at council member Juarez and Mayor Durkin's homes during her tenure. Protests at city hall are to be expected and are free speech. Tammy doesn't like that her failed policies helped lead Seattle to a more conservatvie council and that she is now in the minority. Not a good look to leave after barely squeeking out a win for her seat.

22

It's very clear Tammy Morales thinks she a princess and princess' when they don't get worships get pissed and go home.

Tammy is clearly an over-privileged woman and life has always be easy for her. The doctor husband, the multi-million dollar home, the rich upbringing.

She'll move on. Probably study interior decorating and make people's home ugly, like she did to D2 and Seattle.

The princess is gone and Seattle is overwhelmingly happy.

23

I was in Moore's district the other day. It's appalling how she's doing nothing to improve the atmosphere and quality of life, in general. Poverty, despair, and still no sidewalks. The streets for cars, too, are horribly potted and in disrepair. Lots of rear-enders on 145th where people who don't live there, commute through, speeding down the street as if it's nearly I-5, and when they'd never do that in their own neighborhoods.

She's not doing a thing for her district.

This is how she spends taxpayer money instead - being an anti-democratic beotch to a duly elected progressive representative from another district so that the people of that other district lose their elected representative. And while she does nothing to improve the quality of life in her own area.

I know people didn't want to vote for a former hooker, but she was much a nicer and more approachable person, and she had fresh ideas about actually improving the liveability of neighborhoods. And I am sure her office would have been hosting one appointment after another with the ordinary people in that district, most of whom would never go near the cold beotchy fish that sits there in office now and instead. Voters, wise up! It's never too late to learn.

The rest of you: let us know when your conservatives finally deliver on everything they've been complaining. Now you are in power yet you still do NOTHING for your districts. You just continue to complain and blame others when you are now the ones in power, and no longer have any excuses.

24

@23: “…Lots of rear-enders on 145th where people who don't live there, commute through, speeding down the street as if it's nearly I-5,”

So, CM Moore has not been as staunch an advocate for hiring and deploying more SPD officers as you want her to be? Ok, fair enough.

“…so that the people of that other district lose their elected representative.”

They weren’t big on keeping CM Morales in office anyway, given the narrowness of Morales’ victory over Woo. And Morales’ decision to quit and go home was her own; no one forced it upon her. (CM Sawant remained in office even after her own constituency signed for her recall, she sued them to stop it, and they defeated her lawsuit — so why should CM Morales have quit due to influences from outside her district?)

25

You don't know anything about my opinions on the SPD, so spare your simple-minded divisive stereotypes plunking people in one group (left) vs the other group (right) and only your group is with the police.
Stop rationalizing what these city council members did. It doesn't matter if you or they, with some crystal ball, think the voters "weren't really crazy about her." That's not for anyone else to say - that's a matter for the elections, and she was the candidate chosen by the people. It is not the job of the city council to second-guess the voters and reappoint officials after they push out the officials chosen by the voters of that area.
Don't deflect from the other point of my post either. You've been whining and complaining about specific problems and blaming progressives. But now your people are "finally" in power, and you don't do anything about it now, either. It's still everyone else's fault except yours.
There was yet another shooting, another fire in Moore's district. She was elected blaming progressives for these issues, and now, helping to throw out an elected progressive in another area for supposedly never doing anything about this kind of stuff. Instead of anti-democratic beotch game, what about actually doing her job and focusing on the problems in her own area?

Again, for the umpteenth time, no one was to blame before except the progressives and your obsession with Sawant who is now gone. So what are you doing besides attacking democracy? Right now, no one is to blame except the conservatives or the centrists or the life-long Dems. Whatever stupid political label you want to stick on yourselves, you're not doing what you said you would do if you were in power.

Stop making excuses for yourselves, stop wasting taxpayer money with your anti-democracy beotch games, and fix the problems you said you were going to fix in your districts if you were elected, or your people, IMO, can get out of city hall too.

26

@25: You complained about dangerous scofflaw behaviors by motorists in CM Moore’s district. The classic response to such behaviors is to increase police patrols in the afflicted area. Due to large numbers of officers quitting after the progressive City Council tried to ‘defund’ SPD in 2020, increasing patrols would require more SPD officers, which requires more money, which is something legislators control. That’s where I thought you were going with your criticism of her. If that wasn’t correct, then what did you intend by your criticism of her for allegedly not addressing the problem you’d stated? What do you believe she should do, or not do, in response to this problem?

“It doesn't matter if you or they, with some crystal ball,”

I referred to the certified results of CM Morales’ most recent re-election attempt. She was an incumbent, and her challenger had never previously run for elected office. Yet Woo almost won. That hardly supports your claim the citizens of District 2 would greatly object to Morales’ departure.

“…helping to throw out an elected progressive in another area…”

No one threw Morales’ out. Morales quit. That she claims other persons were responsible does not make it true. She asked voters of District 2 to keep her in office, a very small majority agreed, then she claimed the job was too hard, and quit. Little wonder comments here, and at CHS Blog, were very much in favor of her departure.

CM Sawant spent no small amount of time personally attacking other CMs, calling them names, and saying they should not serve in office. Did CM Morales ever object to CM Sawant’s verbal abuses of other CMs? If not, then why does CM Morales complain about similar behaviors now?

27

You say no one made her quit, and then you make excuses for an environment in which you yourself say they were calling her names but they were justified in this abusive and unprofessional behavior because Sawant called them names and she never said anything? So this is her just deserts? This sounds like kindergarten.

I left two posts. Policing is just one aspect of what I'm talking about. I'm not with defund, but I don't think throwing money at things is always the answer, and I support reallocation of resources first.

Apart from Morales, I don't think voters liked Moore so much as they just didn't want to vote for her opponent. And she's a very unapproachable as a "representative." I think the others are too and what they did in City Hall with Morales will only add to that sentiment.

People can keep arguing about the past, but the present and the future of Seattle is the issue. It sounds your favored people are now in control in City Hall, and you have some choices about how to handle that. Are you going to prove that you're better as you said you would be? Or are you just going to try to crush dissent or bulldoze your way through without consideration of any other views? I have never seen the later work in the long run.

28

@27: "...in which you yourself say they were calling her names..."

Where did I write they called her names? For the sake of argument, I merely considered CM Morales' claim. I then noted that CM Sawant had a long history of name-calling on the Council, that CM Morales seems never to have seriously objected to any of Sawant's name-calling, and so why would such behavior suddenly become a problem now? Especially a problem serious enough to resign over? None of the many other CMs who Sawant verbally abused ever quit over it.

"Policing is just one aspect of what I'm talking about."

So, again, what do you believe CM Moore should do about the reckless motorists you complained about? If not police response, then what? Should SDOT reduce the speed limit on 145th, and put in devices to slow traffic? What do you suggest?

Have you contacted CM Moore's office, and indicated this matter needs attention?

29

@28 "Where did I write they called her names?"

Here, @26:

"CM Sawant spent no small amount of time personally attacking other CMs, calling them names, and saying they should not serve in office. Did CM Morales ever object to CM Sawant’s verbal abuses of other CMs? If not, then why does CM Morales complain about similar behaviors now?"

Regarding:
"So, again, what do you believe CM Moore should do about the reckless motorists you complained about? If not police response, then what? Should SDOT reduce the speed limit on 145th, and put in devices to slow traffic? What do you suggest?"

I never said anything about not using the police. I "do" think they should use the police with regard to this issue on 145th St. in key locations where there have been numerous accidents because of speeding and reckless driving, and they have statistics over a number of years with this going on. They should be pulling these drivers over (probably out-of-town commuters) and ticketing them.

@28 Regarding:
"Have you contacted CM Moore's office, and indicated this matter needs attention?"

I addressed this earlier.

30

And BTW, those awful sidewalks (in addition to the non-existent ones and the potted and broken streets in general they never fix - and which I addressed in an earlier post) --- on 145th, there are elderly and disabled people who have use these practically non-existent portions of sidewalks along 145th ... too narrow, broken, potted holes, muddy, dangerous... and while these out-of-town commuters (at least, my guess as to who they generally are) are barreling down 145th past them way over the speed limits and far too close to any pedestrians using these almost non-existent sidewalks. And just as I expected, though no one listened to me, a pedestrian on a portion of dilapidated sidewalk was hit by a car and killed in this fashion. But they still didn't don't do anything about it: the speeding problem itself or the dangerous dilapidated sidewalk. To this day.

31

@29: The definition of "similar," means, in part, "not exactly the same," so I was saying they were NOT calling her names (because there's no way to prove it). I was trying to reference her claim they were being mean to her, without reciting her entire tedious litany of complaints.

Speaking of tedious:

"I never said anything about not using the police."

I asked you specifically about if Seattle should use the police. Apparently your answer is "yes," but instead of just saying that, you launched into a bizarre, hostile, and bizarrely hostile rant about how I don't know anything about your opinions on the SPD. (Um, yeah, that was implied by my asking the question.)

"I addressed this earlier."

Where?


Please wait...

Comments are closed.

Commenting on this item is available only to members of the site. You can sign in here or create an account here.


Add a comment
Preview

By posting this comment, you are agreeing to our Terms of Use.