"According to UW Magazine, the state funded UW the same amount in 2019 as it did in 1990."
Police staffing falls to levels not seen for decades and everyone loses their minds, university funding does the same and it barely registers as newsworthy. What a comment on American values.
It really doesnât matter what their messages or their intent. The fact of the case are they took over a public building and committed over $1 million worth of damages. They should be held accountable for what they did.
oh hey, look, my comment from yesterday is equally valid on this article:
SUPER UW's 'manifesto' had some very positive things to say about Hamas, which feels like a highly relevant portion of the story:
âWe are taking this building amidst the current and renewed wave of the student Intifada, following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th.â
"Al-Aqsa Flood," to be clear, was the codename for Hamas's terror attacks on October 7. So the "heroic victory" is the murder of more than 1,000 people. Seems like a bit of an omission.
Since you grossly mischaracterized Ana Mari Cauce's statement, here it is in full for anyone who wants to be accurately informed:
https://www.washington.edu/president/2025/05/06/condemning-violent-and-illegal-occupation-of-the-ieb/
"This was no peaceful protest in support of Palestinian rights or against the war in Gaza. I condemn this dangerous, violent and illegal building occupation and related vandalism. I also condemn in the strongest terms the groupâs statement celebrating the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians. The University will not be intimidated by this sort of horrific and destructive behavior and will not engage in dialogue with any group using or condoning such destructive tactics. "
And here is SUPER's manifesto, which praises the 10/7 terrorist attacks:
https://medium.com/@super.uw.seattle/we-demand-uw-will-no-longer-be-complicit-in-genocide-0099dc761f92
âWe are taking this building amidst the current and renewed wave of the student Intifada, following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th, which shattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world.â
This is how civil disobedience works: protesters peacefully break the law and are arrested. In return, they gain a platform from which to reach the publicâs sympathies and plead their cause. Iâm not sure how we moved away from this model in the 1960s in which thousands of nonviolent, primarily black protesters were arrested and charged in their push for civil rights to the modern day ongoing dysfunction of shutting down freeways, campuses and other public spaces in the name of cause xyz, without many consequences. I think itâs time to change up the playbook to match the times.
How convenient for your totally BS, lying, "progressive narrative", that you completely failed to include the very first sentence from the statement by "SUPER UW":
"We are taking this building amidst the current and renewed wave of the student Intifada, following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th, which shattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world."
@3, @5, @6, @8: On every political issue it mentions, but never more so than on the issue of supporting pro-Palestinian protestors, the Stranger has learned that what it omits matters far more than what it includes. The Stranger has learned that including actual statements, in full, made by real pro-Palestinian protestors, always makes those protestors look very, very bad, and so the Stranger carefully employs deft editorial choices, to maintain those protestors' fabricated illusion of righteousness.
For example, this headline post begins with: "On Monday, right before 5pm, dozens of masked people, several of whom were students,"
So, few of them were students. Most of the persons attacking the institution of higher learning were not.
"For three weeks, students and non-students gathered and refused to leave until the university cut ties with Israel and Boeing."
Again, we see that "non-students" counted significantly in last Spring's "student" protest. Does the next sentence explicitly admit the protestors departed, even though the university had most definitely not cut ties with Israel and Boeing? Of course it does not: "It ended after UW agreed to increase transparency about its financial holdings and provide scholarships for displaced Palestinian students among other things."
Explicitly admitting how little these protestors had achieved could never support the Stranger's predetermined narrative.
When in the mind of a critical thinker does Anti-Zionism equal Anti-Semitism? When is vandalism violence? In this article, at least.
I think you could have expanded a bit, but I understand you can't commit too many column inches to actual truth in Seattle's ONLY Newspaper. If the organizers made MORE impossible demands, could you then feel free to call it a million dollar tantrum?
Why don't they declare that every student will show solidarity by wearing distressed blue denim fabric pants for the rest of the week, see how much of an impact that has. Why not include UW divesting from Microsoft, Amazon, and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation while they are at it? And why don't you report Semite Supporting Sycophants as Self-hating Anti-Semites?
Sure, this group of perfectly unsympathetic agitators are basically a walking PR campaign for the Regime's crackdown on speech and higher education, but on the plus side they also didn't do shit for Palestinians. Praxis!
From the Editor's Note, which now appears at the bottom of the post: "It has also been updated to include more details from the SUPER UW press release."
Specifically, it misrepresents what the SUPER UW press release clearly said. As other commenters have noted, above, SUPER UW explicitly praised the 10/7 slaughter as a "victory," using the coded synonym for 10/7, "Al-Aqsa Flood,": "...after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th..." But the Stranger twists this quote, making it read as if SUPER UW had praised another student protest:
'In a press release, SUPER UW said they were âresponding to the callâ of the student movement in Gaza following the October 7 attacks in Israel, celebrating the way it âshattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world.â'
Here, the antecedent for "it" becomes "the student movement in Gaza," whereas SUPER UW had clearly praised the slaughter of 10/7 itself: "...the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th, which shattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination..."
Thanks to the Stranger, for perfectly validating my point @10: "The Stranger has learned that including actual statements, in full, made by real pro-Palestinian protestors, always makes those protestors look very, very bad, and so the Stranger carefully employs deft editorial choices, to maintain those protestors' fabricated illusion of righteousness.
Oh look, Suck er I mean Slog added an "Editors' Note" in which Suck (dangit, I mean Slog) still TOTALLY FAILS to accurately quote the ENTIRE FIRST SENTENCE of "SUPER UW"'s statement:
"In a press release, SUPER UW said they were âresponding to the callâ of the student movement in Gaza following the October 7 attacks in Israel, celebrating the way it âshattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world.â"
Compare and contrast Suck's weasel wording with the actual text:
"We are taking this building amidst the current and renewed wave of the student Intifada, following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th, which shattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world."
Among the posters hung by the UW Super protestors was a series of âGlory to Our Martyrsâ portraits. The featured âmartyrsâ included Wafa Idris, Palestineâs first suicide bomber, who transported her suicide bomb in a Palestinian Red Crescent ambulance and detonated the bomb while wearing the Red Crescentâs uniform. Yikes! đ
Incidents like the Wafa Idris bombing are why Israeli troops sometimes get a little jumpy when they see Palestinian ambulances driving toward them in a combat zone! đ
If the possibility of UW divesting from Boeing had ever really existed, then SUPER UW has completely smashed it, along with much else within the Integrated Engineering Building.
For top research institutions, the UW most definitely included, an edifice such as the Integrated Engineering Building proudly stands, not merely to house the important educational work done daily within the structure, but also as a prominent and prestigious symbol of the institution's dedication to the pursuit of knowledge. When these protestors attacked the Integrated Engineering Building, they attacked both the enlightening mission of the university itself, and the UW's powerful new symbol of that enlightening mission.
The protestors may actually have believed they made a statement about the university and war, but really they made a statement about themselves and hate. Donning masks, invading the building, blockading it, setting the blockade ablaze -- all of these combined into a visual vernacular of barbarians angrily sacking a library full of ancient manuscripts, their rage at what they cannot read now sated by the sight and smell of the crisping pages, ensuring those hated books will never again speak to anyone else, either.
If SUPER UW had conceived and executed this spectacle with the explicit intent to obliterate any hope of legitimacy for their stated cause in the eyes of civilized, educated viewers, then it could not have been more perfectly done.
@16: sorry meant to say that Wafa Idris, one of the âmartyrsâ honored by name at the UW protest, was Palestineâs first FEMALE suicide bomber. Obviously there had been many other male suicide bombers before her. đ
@17 "a visual vernacular of barbarians angrily sacking a library full of ancient manuscripts"
This apparent reference to the Library of Alexandria is telling for two reasons: first, you again use dehumanizing language ("barbarians") to refer to Arabs, but more importantly it's a myth that "barbarian" Arabs destroyed the Library--actually it just fell into decline when the Romans lost interest in its scholarship. So you're doubly ignorant.
@19: lol, whereâd you get the idea that the UW protesters were Arabs? Only, like, two of the arrestees have Arabic names, and even having an Arabic doesnât necessarily mean they are Arabs! đ These protestors were just garden-variety progressives trashing the building and extolling terrorism, they werenât an Arab group! I think you might be projecting your own personal stereotypes here, my dude! đ¤Ł
@19: For someone who does such a poor job of reading what I actually write, you seem to put great effort into reading INTO what I write. Just as "infested" does not in any way imply the infesters are animals, or even living creatures, the image of barbarians attacking an advanced civilization doesn't necessarily imply a specific scenario, as it has happened many times throughout history. If I had anything specific in mind, it was the Sack of Rome, or maybe Viking raids on Irish monasteries.
I would certainly not have used the destruction of the Library of Alexandria as a model, as that is a very modern feminist story: Hypatia, the last Librarian, dragged from her chariot by Christian monks, who then raped and killed her, for her "crime" of teaching men. (The Christians then burned the Library.)
@21 ya sure bud, you specifically wrote "library full of ancient manuscripts" because you were thinking about a monastery or the Roman Senate, makes perfect sense.
Just the other day we had progressives here on Slog complaining that pro-Palestinian protestors are falsely defamed as being pro-terrorism, and then today we have the UW protestors hanging up literal portraits of suicide bombers with a caption that says "Glory to the Martyr." đđđ
You can tell the journalist didnât have a strong argument for their position, because they neither quote SUPERâs statement correctly nor characterize it correctly. And, of course, they didnât want readers to look up what SUPER actually said (that the terrorist attack on 10/7 was an âheroic actâ), so they provided no link to their manifesto. These are the same tactics MAGA media takes, and I hate seeing this in a progressive publication. Either make your argument based on the facts or donât make it at all.
TBF, to the very best of your knowledge, Irish monks never produced or stored any manuscripts.
"The Book of Kells (Latin: Codex Cenannensis; Irish: Leabhar Cheanannais; Dublin, Trinity College Library, MS A. I., sometimes known as the Book of Columba) is an illustrated manuscript and Celtic Gospel book in Latin, containing the four Gospels of the New Testament together with various prefatory texts and tables. It was created in a Columban monastery in either Ireland or Scotland, and may have had contributions from various Columban institutions from each of these areas. It is believed to have been created c. 800 AD. The text of the Gospels is largely drawn from the Vulgate, although it also includes several passages drawn from the earlier versions of the Bible known as the Vetus Latina. It is regarded as a masterwork of Western calligraphy and the pinnacle of Insular illumination. The manuscript takes its name from the Abbey of Kells, County Meath, which was its home for centuries."
The Stranger returns to knowing, intentional dishonesty in reporting as noted by numerous prior posts. Ms. Graham omits the protesters open support of terrorism and uses this omission to distort Ms. Cauce's statement about anti-semitism. Misinformation in service of click bait. Shame on owner Brady Walkinshaw.
@24 Nathalie Graham stopped being a journalist back in 2020 when she committed serious ethical violations by using her press credentials as a shield while participating in the Every Day a Protest actions. In one of her articles on those protests she wrote about using her credentials to avoid arrest after active participation in the event. This puts at risk actual journalists who are covering, not participating in similar events.
It seems that spending 5 years as an unemployable freelancer has taught her nothing.
@26 It's embarrassing how you have ignored the key issue with this article, which has been pointed out by pretty much every commenter since it was published. Too bad your buddy averagebob isn't here to back you up.
âWe know the Trump administration is incredibly repressive,â Horford said. âBut ultimately, regardless of whether it was Trump or Biden and Harris in office, the federal government has been incredibly anti-Palestinian and anti-student movement. The repression is always strong, and that's why we remain optimistic that no matter who we're up against, that our movement can stay strong and grow.â
@26: It's amusing how desperately you continue pushing your wholly invented diversion. (Claiming that you know something about books makes it even better!)
@30: "...tensora admits that the protestors weren't even students..."
The Stranger backhandedly admitted this.
"Classic, but good to know both sides are are [sic] faking incidents."
You guys are sooooooooo desperate to make this embarrassment just go away. But it won't, and the Stranger's ham-fisted attempts to downplay it only makes it worse for you, as one commenter after another after another after another calls the Stranger on this deceit.
@33: "The repression is always strong," for values of "repression," and "strong," which do not result in expulsion, loss of job, or even any kind of informal social censure (although hopefully that last will now change, pronto).
(Cue Monty Python clip in 3, 2, 1 ...)
@34: I suspect that was his ignorant attempt at something like, "images of the Prophet's face are not allowed.." ;-)
Commenter #7 nails it. Protests are successful when they capture the publicâs focus (usually through self sacrificial actions, not destructive ones), and they use that focus to present an argument the public resonates with, when they hadnât before.
These âprotestersâ will never be successful, because their arguments are widely rejected by the public. The destructive actions they take to garner attention turns the public against them.
At this point, the vandals must see the alienation their actions cause, and the harm that does to public support for their cause. That this dynamic has not resulted in a change of tactics is indicative that public support is not the aim. The aim seems to simply be to throw a tantrum and cause damage. And thatâs reason enough to throw the book at them.
These fanatics are a great excuse for the Trump administration to do what it's been trying to do since its first term in office ... cutting funding for "leftist" institutions, meaning, basically, higher education. Because, remember, a mind is a great thing to waste, especially if you want Americans to keep voting for you.
Remember when his supporters came onto UW campus at the outset of his first term, with that Milo character as a speaker (and as an excuse to bring them there), and ended up shooting a UW employee and protest monitor and putting him a wheelchair for the rest of his life? Well, now you have this so-called "left" movement to do it instead, and for Trump. I do indeed wonder who they really are.
In this case, Trump is agreeing with Cauce, and all I can say, in this case, for Trump, is that even a broken clock is correct twice a day. While his motivations may be quite questionable, if he agrees with her, well, that's good.
But how does the Stranger miss this group's statement glorifying Oct 7th and the mass slaughter of innocent Jewish people, including children, women, and elderly, and taking of hostages?
Would that be o.k. if someone did that in the United States?
@15 "I don't see where any Jewish students were threatened by this protest. It took place after most everyone was done for the day."
I don't know if that was a weak attempt at irony, but if it's not, would it be ok for the kl@n to come on campus of a public university, smash windows of a brand new building, set things on fire and under a press release glorifying -- "Rosewood" perhaps? -- and you wouldn't see how any black students could be intimidated because it happens "after most everyone was done for the day" ?
If not yourself, does that help anyone else connect the dots? Probably not.
The thing is, criticizing the Israeli govt is not in and of itself, "antisemitic." But just because that's the case doesn't now mean that anything you say or do isn't antisemitic.
It is fascinating that the commenters (likely all left of center) uniformly call out Grahamâs article as not a piece of journalism but of crude propaganda. Well done, people.
@39 "These fanatics are a great excuse for the Trump administration to do what it's been trying to do since its first term in office ... cutting funding for "leftist" institutions"
Excuse? Republicans didn't need any excuse to support this. Do you mean now some Democrats will support it or what are you talking about?
@42: Let's see, the article describes "weapons factories in the camps," "improvised explosive devices under roads to ambush Israeli soldiers," "weapons," "homes that they believe were used for military purposes," buildings and roads that are "riddled with terrorist hide-outs and booby traps," "tunnels, weapons caches, and manufacturing sites," "a secret tunnel" beneath a former train station, and battles that have resulted in "more than 100 militants" being killed in action plus hundreds more militants being arrested, all in an area that has "long been a bastion of Palestinian militancy." Yikes!
@41: Did you not read the headline post? The main purpose of it was to mischaracterize the UW Administration's position, in part to make it sound as if the UW Administration agrees with the Trump Administration, and will submit to the Trump Administration:
"Echoing Trump administration talking points, faculty and administrators lambasted Mondayâs demonstration as antisemitic."
And, in case even you somehow managed to miss it:
"But the situation is different for UW these days. They may not be as willing to appease protesters when they are busy appeasing a dictator."
@42, @43: From the linked article: "Some Palestinians fear it [Israel] may be laying the ground to annex the territory."
Well, then, it sounds like anyone who opposes Israel annexing Palestinian territory should have done everything they possibly could to oppose Trump's election, as he said very clearly during his campaign that he not only favored Israel's annexation of Gaza, but the expelling of all Palestinians from it.
So, anyone who identifies as a supporter of Palestinians should direct their ire at anyone who didn't oppose Trump's election. I suggest targeting Uncommitted, Abandon Harris, and Seattle's Very Own Trump of the Left, Kshama Sawant. (Well, formerly "of the Left," I suppose...)
@43 "improvised explosive devices under roads to ambush Israeli soldiers"
I would imagine just about any nation facing threat of invasion and occupation would prepare traps to slow or stop the invading army. If the Israeli soldiers just kept out of other peoples' territory this wouldn't be a problem for them. Says a lot more about the Israelis than the Palestinians to me.
@45
Borders are "Progressive" now (at least the border between Israel and Palestine, and Russian and Ukraine are, maybe even the one between Illinois and Wisconsin, if you're a lib whining about Kyle Rittenhouse who "crossed state lines!!!").
The last 1.5 years of pro Hamas shit, Oct 7, watching Hamas being unable to distinguish civilians from combatants, and watching the brainwashed children Hamas fighters who only know to be martyrs, and the Palestinian civilian support for Hamas murder and rape and torture and kidnappings held by those regular âcivilianâ Palestinians have cause all decent people everywhere to hate Hamas and seek its destruction. I would prefer every last supporter of Hamas to die. Hamas is at war with us and I want them dead. That is what they want of me. And if weâre in a rapist-murderers-or-non-rapist-murderers get to live situation, kill them all.
If you support Hamas, you are a piece of shit, unworthy of your life. You are either evil or so unsapient your life should not be regarded with value comparable to other Homo sapiens.
Just to clarify, the damage done to the UW IEB by SUPER should easily result in over a million dollars. The first $1M+ is just for the precision engineering laboratory equipment SUPER's occupiers smashed, some of which had not yet gone into service. Gluing exit doors shut (a huge fire-safety hazard, btw) and other damage to the building will add to the total cost.
"UW officials estimated more than $1 million in damages to a single room downstairs that houses brand-new machinery." (https://www.dailyuw.com/news/uw-reports-more-than-1-million-in-damages-to-engineering-building-after-pro-palestinian-occupation/article_7998959e-f831-42ac-aafd-d8f1e3de620e.html)
SUPER has yet to reveal how this damage advanced their cause.
@44 So, anyone who identifies as a supporter of Palestinians should direct their ire at anyone who didn't oppose Trump's election. I suggest targeting Uncommitted, Abandon Harris, and Seattle's Very Own Trump of the Left, Kshama Sawant. (Well, formerly "of the Left," I suppose...)
Did anyone ever tell you, you're a hateful, sadistic beotch. And people like you in the Democratic Party are 80% of the reason they lost. If you don't want to lose in the next round, I suggest you sit down and STFU for the rest of Trump's term.
@52: Did anyone ever tell you that ad hominem attacks do not constitute arguments, and therefore an ad hominem attack does not earn the respect shown to an actual argument?
Show either how my facts were wrong, or my logic was wrong, or how it's all irrelevant. Good luck with any of that, because during last year's campaign, Trump was very clear about how he wanted to deport Gaza's current population, and build luxury hotels there. The Stranger (and other self-described supporters of Palestinian Gaza) actively dismissed, belittled, or ignored Trump's very clear statements, and persistently minimized all hazards inherent to another Trump administration. The Stranger loudly supported Uncommitted, Abandon Harris, and Seattle's Very Own Trump of the Left, Kshama Sawant, all of whom worked to defeat Harris, and thus to elect Trump. The Stranger and those entities cannot now say we did not warn them.
Finally, I'm not a Democrat -- it's the Stranger, and supportive commenters here, who need to "sit down and STFU for the rest of Trump's term." Please feel free to get going on that, the sooner the better.
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@53 Show you how your facts were wrong? You're such a miserable and malicious ignoramus, you just blamed the mass slaughter of Palestinians - and while entirely ignoring Hamas and the Israeli govt), out of 330 million Americans, on a former Seattle city councilmember and a few million Americans who voted for 3rd party candidates because they couldn't stand either mainstream candidate, both of whom are responsible for what's going on there, and so, if you want to lay it on the voters, which is your argument, well, that would be the people who voted for either of them.
And yes, everyone knows you won't sit and STFU because you're too conceited to even consider the idea of listening to a different point of view than your own, and too egocentric to have any comprehension of the meaning of the term "respect." I have never seen you express any opinion that is respectful of other human beings. And you consider yourself so "god-like," so supreme in your self-inflated opinions about everything, that you wouldn't know what a "fact" is, if it landed right in front of you.
@55: Ok, you can neither show my facts are wrong, nor understand that name-calling is not argument. Seriously mischaracterizing what I have written doesnât count as a response, either.
As you didnât address anything Iâd actually written, I could not respond to your festival of name-calling ad hominem attacks, even if I wanted to. Good-bye.
Trump is a fascist that studied Hitler's writings to better become a neonazi.
I and many others will not sit down and shut up while this country is taken over by ziofascists under the Trump regime. Both parties, generally speaking, are guilty of supporting a death cult which has continued for decades to rob, torture and murder the people of occupied Palestine. And presently continues to step up the genocide and naming anyone who objects an antisemite.
Noticiably, the reason people are protesting (and property is not more important than human lives in a decent world) is obvious. At least three hundred thousand people have been brutally murdered by Israeli forces. And the zionist project continue to lie about it. This is largely paid for by our tax money.
The majority of the American people do not want their tax money spent on Israel that continues committing war crime after war crime. THE MAJORITY. The Israel zionist project is despised by the majority of the whole world. Even if the majority were for the zionist project I would still stand for the liberation of Palestine. However, most of humanity are quite decent thankfully. Trump is staging a war against the oppressed Palestinian people and the American people that are not filthy rich. This is similar to 1933 Germany and millions of American people are not going for it.
@57: "...and property is not more important than human lives in a decent world.."
Great! I've been looking for an explanation of how SUPER UW's vandalization of first the UW HUB, and now the UW IEB, helped save any lives at all anywhere else. Please feel free to show how these two protests contributed to that life-saving work.
"According to UW Magazine, the state funded UW the same amount in 2019 as it did in 1990."
Police staffing falls to levels not seen for decades and everyone loses their minds, university funding does the same and it barely registers as newsworthy. What a comment on American values.
So, who decides what is antisemitic? Does intent matter or not? If Jewish students at UW felt threatened by this protest, do their views matter?
I think the protestors need to be very careful as not to come off as hypocrites when judging others.
You omitted the fact that SUPER praised and celebrated the 10/7 attack. Nice work leaving out facts that donât support your conclusions.
It really doesnât matter what their messages or their intent. The fact of the case are they took over a public building and committed over $1 million worth of damages. They should be held accountable for what they did.
oh hey, look, my comment from yesterday is equally valid on this article:
SUPER UW's 'manifesto' had some very positive things to say about Hamas, which feels like a highly relevant portion of the story:
âWe are taking this building amidst the current and renewed wave of the student Intifada, following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th.â
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/uw-protest-occupation-end-with-30-arrests/
"Al-Aqsa Flood," to be clear, was the codename for Hamas's terror attacks on October 7. So the "heroic victory" is the murder of more than 1,000 people. Seems like a bit of an omission.
Since you grossly mischaracterized Ana Mari Cauce's statement, here it is in full for anyone who wants to be accurately informed:
https://www.washington.edu/president/2025/05/06/condemning-violent-and-illegal-occupation-of-the-ieb/
"This was no peaceful protest in support of Palestinian rights or against the war in Gaza. I condemn this dangerous, violent and illegal building occupation and related vandalism. I also condemn in the strongest terms the groupâs statement celebrating the Oct. 7, 2023, Hamas terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians. The University will not be intimidated by this sort of horrific and destructive behavior and will not engage in dialogue with any group using or condoning such destructive tactics. "
And here is SUPER's manifesto, which praises the 10/7 terrorist attacks:
https://medium.com/@super.uw.seattle/we-demand-uw-will-no-longer-be-complicit-in-genocide-0099dc761f92
âWe are taking this building amidst the current and renewed wave of the student Intifada, following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th, which shattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world.â
This is how civil disobedience works: protesters peacefully break the law and are arrested. In return, they gain a platform from which to reach the publicâs sympathies and plead their cause. Iâm not sure how we moved away from this model in the 1960s in which thousands of nonviolent, primarily black protesters were arrested and charged in their push for civil rights to the modern day ongoing dysfunction of shutting down freeways, campuses and other public spaces in the name of cause xyz, without many consequences. I think itâs time to change up the playbook to match the times.
How convenient for your totally BS, lying, "progressive narrative", that you completely failed to include the very first sentence from the statement by "SUPER UW":
"We are taking this building amidst the current and renewed wave of the student Intifada, following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th, which shattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world."
The Stranger SUCKS
This sounds remarkably similar to the J6 riot, not a protest.
@3, @5, @6, @8: On every political issue it mentions, but never more so than on the issue of supporting pro-Palestinian protestors, the Stranger has learned that what it omits matters far more than what it includes. The Stranger has learned that including actual statements, in full, made by real pro-Palestinian protestors, always makes those protestors look very, very bad, and so the Stranger carefully employs deft editorial choices, to maintain those protestors' fabricated illusion of righteousness.
For example, this headline post begins with: "On Monday, right before 5pm, dozens of masked people, several of whom were students,"
So, few of them were students. Most of the persons attacking the institution of higher learning were not.
"For three weeks, students and non-students gathered and refused to leave until the university cut ties with Israel and Boeing."
Again, we see that "non-students" counted significantly in last Spring's "student" protest. Does the next sentence explicitly admit the protestors departed, even though the university had most definitely not cut ties with Israel and Boeing? Of course it does not: "It ended after UW agreed to increase transparency about its financial holdings and provide scholarships for displaced Palestinian students among other things."
Explicitly admitting how little these protestors had achieved could never support the Stranger's predetermined narrative.
When in the mind of a critical thinker does Anti-Zionism equal Anti-Semitism? When is vandalism violence? In this article, at least.
I think you could have expanded a bit, but I understand you can't commit too many column inches to actual truth in Seattle's ONLY Newspaper. If the organizers made MORE impossible demands, could you then feel free to call it a million dollar tantrum?
Why don't they declare that every student will show solidarity by wearing distressed blue denim fabric pants for the rest of the week, see how much of an impact that has. Why not include UW divesting from Microsoft, Amazon, and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation while they are at it? And why don't you report Semite Supporting Sycophants as Self-hating Anti-Semites?
Sure, this group of perfectly unsympathetic agitators are basically a walking PR campaign for the Regime's crackdown on speech and higher education, but on the plus side they also didn't do shit for Palestinians. Praxis!
From the Editor's Note, which now appears at the bottom of the post: "It has also been updated to include more details from the SUPER UW press release."
Specifically, it misrepresents what the SUPER UW press release clearly said. As other commenters have noted, above, SUPER UW explicitly praised the 10/7 slaughter as a "victory," using the coded synonym for 10/7, "Al-Aqsa Flood,": "...after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th..." But the Stranger twists this quote, making it read as if SUPER UW had praised another student protest:
'In a press release, SUPER UW said they were âresponding to the callâ of the student movement in Gaza following the October 7 attacks in Israel, celebrating the way it âshattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world.â'
Here, the antecedent for "it" becomes "the student movement in Gaza," whereas SUPER UW had clearly praised the slaughter of 10/7 itself: "...the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th, which shattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination..."
Thanks to the Stranger, for perfectly validating my point @10: "The Stranger has learned that including actual statements, in full, made by real pro-Palestinian protestors, always makes those protestors look very, very bad, and so the Stranger carefully employs deft editorial choices, to maintain those protestors' fabricated illusion of righteousness.
Oh look, Suck er I mean Slog added an "Editors' Note" in which Suck (dangit, I mean Slog) still TOTALLY FAILS to accurately quote the ENTIRE FIRST SENTENCE of "SUPER UW"'s statement:
"In a press release, SUPER UW said they were âresponding to the callâ of the student movement in Gaza following the October 7 attacks in Israel, celebrating the way it âshattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world.â"
Compare and contrast Suck's weasel wording with the actual text:
"We are taking this building amidst the current and renewed wave of the student Intifada, following the uprising of student action for Palestine after the heroic victory of Al-Aqsa Flood on October 7th, which shattered the illusion of zionist-imperialist domination and brought Palestine to the forefront for all justice-loving people of the world."
THE STRANGER SUCKS
SLOG IS SUCK
I don't see where any Jewish students were threatened by this protest. It took place after most everyone was done for the day.
I also haven't seen how many of the occupiers were or weren't students. "Some" is how many?
I'd love to not have to tune into Sinclair/KOMO or KIRO FM to find out.
Among the posters hung by the UW Super protestors was a series of âGlory to Our Martyrsâ portraits. The featured âmartyrsâ included Wafa Idris, Palestineâs first suicide bomber, who transported her suicide bomb in a Palestinian Red Crescent ambulance and detonated the bomb while wearing the Red Crescentâs uniform. Yikes! đ
Incidents like the Wafa Idris bombing are why Israeli troops sometimes get a little jumpy when they see Palestinian ambulances driving toward them in a combat zone! đ
Protest photos here, sorry for Xitter link:
https://x.com/HannahknowlesTV/status/1919732539096281097/photo/2
If the possibility of UW divesting from Boeing had ever really existed, then SUPER UW has completely smashed it, along with much else within the Integrated Engineering Building.
For top research institutions, the UW most definitely included, an edifice such as the Integrated Engineering Building proudly stands, not merely to house the important educational work done daily within the structure, but also as a prominent and prestigious symbol of the institution's dedication to the pursuit of knowledge. When these protestors attacked the Integrated Engineering Building, they attacked both the enlightening mission of the university itself, and the UW's powerful new symbol of that enlightening mission.
The protestors may actually have believed they made a statement about the university and war, but really they made a statement about themselves and hate. Donning masks, invading the building, blockading it, setting the blockade ablaze -- all of these combined into a visual vernacular of barbarians angrily sacking a library full of ancient manuscripts, their rage at what they cannot read now sated by the sight and smell of the crisping pages, ensuring those hated books will never again speak to anyone else, either.
If SUPER UW had conceived and executed this spectacle with the explicit intent to obliterate any hope of legitimacy for their stated cause in the eyes of civilized, educated viewers, then it could not have been more perfectly done.
@16: sorry meant to say that Wafa Idris, one of the âmartyrsâ honored by name at the UW protest, was Palestineâs first FEMALE suicide bomber. Obviously there had been many other male suicide bombers before her. đ
@17 "a visual vernacular of barbarians angrily sacking a library full of ancient manuscripts"
This apparent reference to the Library of Alexandria is telling for two reasons: first, you again use dehumanizing language ("barbarians") to refer to Arabs, but more importantly it's a myth that "barbarian" Arabs destroyed the Library--actually it just fell into decline when the Romans lost interest in its scholarship. So you're doubly ignorant.
@19: lol, whereâd you get the idea that the UW protesters were Arabs? Only, like, two of the arrestees have Arabic names, and even having an Arabic doesnât necessarily mean they are Arabs! đ These protestors were just garden-variety progressives trashing the building and extolling terrorism, they werenât an Arab group! I think you might be projecting your own personal stereotypes here, my dude! đ¤Ł
@19: For someone who does such a poor job of reading what I actually write, you seem to put great effort into reading INTO what I write. Just as "infested" does not in any way imply the infesters are animals, or even living creatures, the image of barbarians attacking an advanced civilization doesn't necessarily imply a specific scenario, as it has happened many times throughout history. If I had anything specific in mind, it was the Sack of Rome, or maybe Viking raids on Irish monasteries.
I would certainly not have used the destruction of the Library of Alexandria as a model, as that is a very modern feminist story: Hypatia, the last Librarian, dragged from her chariot by Christian monks, who then raped and killed her, for her "crime" of teaching men. (The Christians then burned the Library.)
@21 ya sure bud, you specifically wrote "library full of ancient manuscripts" because you were thinking about a monastery or the Roman Senate, makes perfect sense.
Just the other day we had progressives here on Slog complaining that pro-Palestinian protestors are falsely defamed as being pro-terrorism, and then today we have the UW protestors hanging up literal portraits of suicide bombers with a caption that says "Glory to the Martyr." đđđ
You can tell the journalist didnât have a strong argument for their position, because they neither quote SUPERâs statement correctly nor characterize it correctly. And, of course, they didnât want readers to look up what SUPER actually said (that the terrorist attack on 10/7 was an âheroic actâ), so they provided no link to their manifesto. These are the same tactics MAGA media takes, and I hate seeing this in a progressive publication. Either make your argument based on the facts or donât make it at all.
@22: "...thinking about a monastery..."
TBF, to the very best of your knowledge, Irish monks never produced or stored any manuscripts.
"The Book of Kells (Latin: Codex Cenannensis; Irish: Leabhar Cheanannais; Dublin, Trinity College Library, MS A. I., sometimes known as the Book of Columba) is an illustrated manuscript and Celtic Gospel book in Latin, containing the four Gospels of the New Testament together with various prefatory texts and tables. It was created in a Columban monastery in either Ireland or Scotland, and may have had contributions from various Columban institutions from each of these areas. It is believed to have been created c. 800 AD. The text of the Gospels is largely drawn from the Vulgate, although it also includes several passages drawn from the earlier versions of the Bible known as the Vetus Latina. It is regarded as a masterwork of Western calligraphy and the pinnacle of Insular illumination. The manuscript takes its name from the Abbey of Kells, County Meath, which was its home for centuries."
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Kells#:~:text=The%20Book%20of%20Kells%20(Latin,was%20its%20home%20for%20centuries.)
@23: '...then today we have the UW protestors hanging up literal portraits of suicide bombers with a caption that says "Glory to the Martyr."'
But you didn't read that in the Stranger, so here, it never happened. Just ask thirteen12. ;-)
@25 it's honestly embarrassing how hard you're trying to convince the internet you meant "monastery" when you wrote "library"
The Stranger returns to knowing, intentional dishonesty in reporting as noted by numerous prior posts. Ms. Graham omits the protesters open support of terrorism and uses this omission to distort Ms. Cauce's statement about anti-semitism. Misinformation in service of click bait. Shame on owner Brady Walkinshaw.
@27: itâs all part of the pro-Hamas left. They hung up a poster of deceased Hamas Chairman Ismail Haniyah! đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
21 of the protestors have been identified as students. They have been suspended and barred from campus.
Obviously a false flag operation, like the attack on the vessel near Malta going to deliver humanitarians supplies to Gaza.
tensora admits that the protestors weren't even students and why would there be posters of people since it is forbidden in islam?
Classic, but good to know both sides are are faking incidents.
I would like to thank Canary Misson for inspiring me to create this soon to be viral conspiracy.
@24 Nathalie Graham stopped being a journalist back in 2020 when she committed serious ethical violations by using her press credentials as a shield while participating in the Every Day a Protest actions. In one of her articles on those protests she wrote about using her credentials to avoid arrest after active participation in the event. This puts at risk actual journalists who are covering, not participating in similar events.
It seems that spending 5 years as an unemployable freelancer has taught her nothing.
@26 It's embarrassing how you have ignored the key issue with this article, which has been pointed out by pretty much every commenter since it was published. Too bad your buddy averagebob isn't here to back you up.
âWe know the Trump administration is incredibly repressive,â Horford said. âBut ultimately, regardless of whether it was Trump or Biden and Harris in office, the federal government has been incredibly anti-Palestinian and anti-student movement. The repression is always strong, and that's why we remain optimistic that no matter who we're up against, that our movement can stay strong and grow.â
Too stupid for words
@30: âposters of people since it is forbidden in islam?â
lol, youâve never been inside a Muslimâs house, have you? đ
Let's make it simple - If you support or defend Hamas, and their actions, you're an anti-semite.
Article 7, Hamas Charter:
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.'
@26: It's amusing how desperately you continue pushing your wholly invented diversion. (Claiming that you know something about books makes it even better!)
@30: "...tensora admits that the protestors weren't even students..."
The Stranger backhandedly admitted this.
"Classic, but good to know both sides are are [sic] faking incidents."
You guys are sooooooooo desperate to make this embarrassment just go away. But it won't, and the Stranger's ham-fisted attempts to downplay it only makes it worse for you, as one commenter after another after another after another calls the Stranger on this deceit.
@33: "The repression is always strong," for values of "repression," and "strong," which do not result in expulsion, loss of job, or even any kind of informal social censure (although hopefully that last will now change, pronto).
(Cue Monty Python clip in 3, 2, 1 ...)
@34: I suspect that was his ignorant attempt at something like, "images of the Prophet's face are not allowed.." ;-)
Commenter #7 nails it. Protests are successful when they capture the publicâs focus (usually through self sacrificial actions, not destructive ones), and they use that focus to present an argument the public resonates with, when they hadnât before.
These âprotestersâ will never be successful, because their arguments are widely rejected by the public. The destructive actions they take to garner attention turns the public against them.
At this point, the vandals must see the alienation their actions cause, and the harm that does to public support for their cause. That this dynamic has not resulted in a change of tactics is indicative that public support is not the aim. The aim seems to simply be to throw a tantrum and cause damage. And thatâs reason enough to throw the book at them.
So strange how the stranger doesn't link to the "SUPER" press release praising Hamas
These fanatics are a great excuse for the Trump administration to do what it's been trying to do since its first term in office ... cutting funding for "leftist" institutions, meaning, basically, higher education. Because, remember, a mind is a great thing to waste, especially if you want Americans to keep voting for you.
Remember when his supporters came onto UW campus at the outset of his first term, with that Milo character as a speaker (and as an excuse to bring them there), and ended up shooting a UW employee and protest monitor and putting him a wheelchair for the rest of his life? Well, now you have this so-called "left" movement to do it instead, and for Trump. I do indeed wonder who they really are.
In this case, Trump is agreeing with Cauce, and all I can say, in this case, for Trump, is that even a broken clock is correct twice a day. While his motivations may be quite questionable, if he agrees with her, well, that's good.
But how does the Stranger miss this group's statement glorifying Oct 7th and the mass slaughter of innocent Jewish people, including children, women, and elderly, and taking of hostages?
Would that be o.k. if someone did that in the United States?
@15 "I don't see where any Jewish students were threatened by this protest. It took place after most everyone was done for the day."
I don't know if that was a weak attempt at irony, but if it's not, would it be ok for the kl@n to come on campus of a public university, smash windows of a brand new building, set things on fire and under a press release glorifying -- "Rosewood" perhaps? -- and you wouldn't see how any black students could be intimidated because it happens "after most everyone was done for the day" ?
If not yourself, does that help anyone else connect the dots? Probably not.
The thing is, criticizing the Israeli govt is not in and of itself, "antisemitic." But just because that's the case doesn't now mean that anything you say or do isn't antisemitic.
It is fascinating that the commenters (likely all left of center) uniformly call out Grahamâs article as not a piece of journalism but of crude propaganda. Well done, people.
@39 "These fanatics are a great excuse for the Trump administration to do what it's been trying to do since its first term in office ... cutting funding for "leftist" institutions"
Excuse? Republicans didn't need any excuse to support this. Do you mean now some Democrats will support it or what are you talking about?
For those who continue to insist Hamas is at fault for all Israel's actions:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/world/middleeast/israel-west-bank-palestinians-fear-annexation.html
@42: Let's see, the article describes "weapons factories in the camps," "improvised explosive devices under roads to ambush Israeli soldiers," "weapons," "homes that they believe were used for military purposes," buildings and roads that are "riddled with terrorist hide-outs and booby traps," "tunnels, weapons caches, and manufacturing sites," "a secret tunnel" beneath a former train station, and battles that have resulted in "more than 100 militants" being killed in action plus hundreds more militants being arrested, all in an area that has "long been a bastion of Palestinian militancy." Yikes!
Did you link to the wrong article? đđđ
@41: Did you not read the headline post? The main purpose of it was to mischaracterize the UW Administration's position, in part to make it sound as if the UW Administration agrees with the Trump Administration, and will submit to the Trump Administration:
"Echoing Trump administration talking points, faculty and administrators lambasted Mondayâs demonstration as antisemitic."
And, in case even you somehow managed to miss it:
"But the situation is different for UW these days. They may not be as willing to appease protesters when they are busy appeasing a dictator."
@42, @43: From the linked article: "Some Palestinians fear it [Israel] may be laying the ground to annex the territory."
Well, then, it sounds like anyone who opposes Israel annexing Palestinian territory should have done everything they possibly could to oppose Trump's election, as he said very clearly during his campaign that he not only favored Israel's annexation of Gaza, but the expelling of all Palestinians from it.
So, anyone who identifies as a supporter of Palestinians should direct their ire at anyone who didn't oppose Trump's election. I suggest targeting Uncommitted, Abandon Harris, and Seattle's Very Own Trump of the Left, Kshama Sawant. (Well, formerly "of the Left," I suppose...)
@43 "improvised explosive devices under roads to ambush Israeli soldiers"
I would imagine just about any nation facing threat of invasion and occupation would prepare traps to slow or stop the invading army. If the Israeli soldiers just kept out of other peoples' territory this wouldn't be a problem for them. Says a lot more about the Israelis than the Palestinians to me.
@45: Just a few more improvised explosive devices and Palestine will be free! đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
@45
Borders are "Progressive" now (at least the border between Israel and Palestine, and Russian and Ukraine are, maybe even the one between Illinois and Wisconsin, if you're a lib whining about Kyle Rittenhouse who "crossed state lines!!!").
The last 1.5 years of pro Hamas shit, Oct 7, watching Hamas being unable to distinguish civilians from combatants, and watching the brainwashed children Hamas fighters who only know to be martyrs, and the Palestinian civilian support for Hamas murder and rape and torture and kidnappings held by those regular âcivilianâ Palestinians have cause all decent people everywhere to hate Hamas and seek its destruction. I would prefer every last supporter of Hamas to die. Hamas is at war with us and I want them dead. That is what they want of me. And if weâre in a rapist-murderers-or-non-rapist-murderers get to live situation, kill them all.
If you support Hamas, you are a piece of shit, unworthy of your life. You are either evil or so unsapient your life should not be regarded with value comparable to other Homo sapiens.
@48 "And if weâre in a rapist-murderers-or-non-rapist-murderers get to live situation, kill them all."
Uh oh now thumpus is gonna call you an antisemite
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/9/everything-is-legitimate-israeli-leaders-defend-soldiers-accused-of-rape
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-investigation-killing-15-palestinian-medics-rcna202028
Just to clarify, the damage done to the UW IEB by SUPER should easily result in over a million dollars. The first $1M+ is just for the precision engineering laboratory equipment SUPER's occupiers smashed, some of which had not yet gone into service. Gluing exit doors shut (a huge fire-safety hazard, btw) and other damage to the building will add to the total cost.
"UW officials estimated more than $1 million in damages to a single room downstairs that houses brand-new machinery." (https://www.dailyuw.com/news/uw-reports-more-than-1-million-in-damages-to-engineering-building-after-pro-palestinian-occupation/article_7998959e-f831-42ac-aafd-d8f1e3de620e.html)
SUPER has yet to reveal how this damage advanced their cause.
@41 "Do you mean now some Democrats will support it or what are you talking about?"
Sure. You don't Democrats and Republicans are that different, do you.
@44 So, anyone who identifies as a supporter of Palestinians should direct their ire at anyone who didn't oppose Trump's election. I suggest targeting Uncommitted, Abandon Harris, and Seattle's Very Own Trump of the Left, Kshama Sawant. (Well, formerly "of the Left," I suppose...)
Did anyone ever tell you, you're a hateful, sadistic beotch. And people like you in the Democratic Party are 80% of the reason they lost. If you don't want to lose in the next round, I suggest you sit down and STFU for the rest of Trump's term.
@52: Did anyone ever tell you that ad hominem attacks do not constitute arguments, and therefore an ad hominem attack does not earn the respect shown to an actual argument?
Show either how my facts were wrong, or my logic was wrong, or how it's all irrelevant. Good luck with any of that, because during last year's campaign, Trump was very clear about how he wanted to deport Gaza's current population, and build luxury hotels there. The Stranger (and other self-described supporters of Palestinian Gaza) actively dismissed, belittled, or ignored Trump's very clear statements, and persistently minimized all hazards inherent to another Trump administration. The Stranger loudly supported Uncommitted, Abandon Harris, and Seattle's Very Own Trump of the Left, Kshama Sawant, all of whom worked to defeat Harris, and thus to elect Trump. The Stranger and those entities cannot now say we did not warn them.
Finally, I'm not a Democrat -- it's the Stranger, and supportive commenters here, who need to "sit down and STFU for the rest of Trump's term." Please feel free to get going on that, the sooner the better.
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@53 Show you how your facts were wrong? You're such a miserable and malicious ignoramus, you just blamed the mass slaughter of Palestinians - and while entirely ignoring Hamas and the Israeli govt), out of 330 million Americans, on a former Seattle city councilmember and a few million Americans who voted for 3rd party candidates because they couldn't stand either mainstream candidate, both of whom are responsible for what's going on there, and so, if you want to lay it on the voters, which is your argument, well, that would be the people who voted for either of them.
And yes, everyone knows you won't sit and STFU because you're too conceited to even consider the idea of listening to a different point of view than your own, and too egocentric to have any comprehension of the meaning of the term "respect." I have never seen you express any opinion that is respectful of other human beings. And you consider yourself so "god-like," so supreme in your self-inflated opinions about everything, that you wouldn't know what a "fact" is, if it landed right in front of you.
@55: Ok, you can neither show my facts are wrong, nor understand that name-calling is not argument. Seriously mischaracterizing what I have written doesnât count as a response, either.
As you didnât address anything Iâd actually written, I could not respond to your festival of name-calling ad hominem attacks, even if I wanted to. Good-bye.
Trump is a fascist that studied Hitler's writings to better become a neonazi.
I and many others will not sit down and shut up while this country is taken over by ziofascists under the Trump regime. Both parties, generally speaking, are guilty of supporting a death cult which has continued for decades to rob, torture and murder the people of occupied Palestine. And presently continues to step up the genocide and naming anyone who objects an antisemite.
Noticiably, the reason people are protesting (and property is not more important than human lives in a decent world) is obvious. At least three hundred thousand people have been brutally murdered by Israeli forces. And the zionist project continue to lie about it. This is largely paid for by our tax money.
The majority of the American people do not want their tax money spent on Israel that continues committing war crime after war crime. THE MAJORITY. The Israel zionist project is despised by the majority of the whole world. Even if the majority were for the zionist project I would still stand for the liberation of Palestine. However, most of humanity are quite decent thankfully. Trump is staging a war against the oppressed Palestinian people and the American people that are not filthy rich. This is similar to 1933 Germany and millions of American people are not going for it.
@57: "...and property is not more important than human lives in a decent world.."
Great! I've been looking for an explanation of how SUPER UW's vandalization of first the UW HUB, and now the UW IEB, helped save any lives at all anywhere else. Please feel free to show how these two protests contributed to that life-saving work.