Hawaii has a caucus.

I remember being part of the Rainbow Coalition which merged with Tsongas and other candidates to actually ELECT DELEGATES because we got more than the 15% threshold.

Next time, stop posturing and start working if you actually want change. We got most of our resolutions passed at the State Convention.

Perhaps Hannah can run for the city council seat. That would make for interesting reading.

speaking of Gloating
over Uncommitted:

nyt:
Pro-Israel Lobby
Faces Challenges Amid
Gaza War and Shifting Politics

AIPAC, the pro-Israel group that has long been among Washington’s most powerful lobbying forces, is facing intense challenges as it seeks to maintain bipartisan support for Israel amid the war in Gaza — even as it alienates some Democrats with its increasingly aggressive political tactics.

While AIPAC has traditionally been able to count on strong backing from members of both parties, it has taken on a more overtly political role in recent years by helping fund electoral challenges to left-leaning Democrats it considers insufficiently supportive.

The tension has been exacerbated by divisions in the Democratic Party over Israel against the backdrop of a rising civilian death toll in Gaza and the barriers placed on humanitarian aid by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

-by Kate Kelly and Kenneth P. Vogel

for more on
Nutnyahoo’s little
Genocidal War on Gazans:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/us/politics/aipac-israel-gaza-democrats-republicans.html

‘AIPAC
has taken on
a more overtly political role
in recent years by helping fund
electoral challenges to left-leaning
Democrats it considers insufficiently supportive.’

A little Foreign Interference
In OUR Elections? All those
Billions we Hand to this ful-
ly SOCIALIZED purveyor of
Genocidal War Crimes

that’s not Enough?
they also gotta
Choose OUR
Representa
tives FOR
US?

lotta Joy from
tS’s right wing
Commentariat.

You’re celebrating the votes for uncommitted, yet calling Kennedy’s campaign a “clown car”. Riiiiight.

@7: So, Biden got a larger share of the Democratic vote than Trump got of the Republican vote, and that was after all of the nonsense about voting “uncommitted.” Strong message, that.

Have we an over/under on how long the Stranger will continue flogging the dead horse of “uncommitted”?

@1 You don't think that King County Elections is giving good advice by saying to use drop boxes. You provide the evidence. I'm not your research service.

The new IRS Direct File program will be great for those who qualify, but for the rest of us, you can still e-file your return for free by using the IRS's Free File (although, like Direct File, there are some qualifications: https://www.irs.gov/filing/free-file-do-your-federal-taxes-for-free), or you can just use the fillable forms, linked on the same page above.

Helpful hint: I use the online TurboTax app to do all the heavy number crunching on my return, then just transfer the results over to the IRS electronic forms, so I don't have to pay to file it. Saves some time and headache, especially for the more mathematically-challenged, or those with slightly more complicated tax situations, like 1099's.

"Nothing says "elect me" like banning an app young people love a lot, or depend on for their income."

Fortunately for Biden, the demographic you're describing mostly doesn't vote anyway.

@5: Why do you call AIPAC “foreign”?

I'm with Will and think Dems would do well to start emulating campaign tactics employed by Paul Tsongas. Also, what about Dick Gephardt, any idea what he's up to these days?

Coalitions are coalitions. You agree on what you can agree (changes to policy) and you get stuff done. Downsaying effective action just shows you're not serious.

I mailed my ballot at 5:30 last night and at 10:30 this morning got a notification from KC Elections that it had been received. An hour later I got another notification that my signature had been verified and my ballot would be counted. Good government at work!

@11
why do you
call a genocidal
War on Gazans not
a Genocide? oh, the humanity

nyt:

Netanyahu Is Making Israel Radioactive

“… but no fair-minded person can look at the Israeli campaign to destroy Hamas that has killed more than 30,000 Palestinians in Gaza, about a third of them fighters, and not conclude that something has gone terribly wrong there.

The dead include thousands of children [20,000, and Still counting], and the survivors many orphans. So much of Gaza is now a wasteland of death and destruction, hunger and ruined homes.

Urban warfare brings out the absolute worst in people, and that is certainly true for Israel in Gaza. This is a stain on the Jewish state.”

--by Thomas L. Friedman

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/12/opinion/israel-hamas-war-netanyahu.html

one comment on the article:

“Basically
an ongoing nightmare.
Netanyahu has a vision, and it is
hold on to power at all costs. Cost
to the citizens of his country, cost to
those in Gaza who have no where to go.

Instead of a
well thought out response
to Oct 6, he plunged into revenge.

And as they say, the man
who seeks revenge
should first dig
2 graves.

--Elizabeth; Seattle

or, in This case
Make it
40,000.

three more comments
on Thomas Friedman’s
‘Netanyahu Is Making
Israel Radioactive’:

Nobody doubts a thing Thomas Friedman says, and that's exactly the problem. Everything he decries here was predictable--and predicted--from the moment Israel began its catastrophic assault on Gaza.

  Israel bears a massive share of the guilt for this, but so do the American people.  We funded this assault.  We supplied the weapons.  We gave it every shred of diplomatic support and credibility it could possibly wish.  

The world blames us along with Israel. Nobody with a brain doubts that. As Mr. Friedman says, that's not the end but the beginning of the whole dismal and outrageous story.

-- David A. Lee; Ottawa KS 66067

Yes, he is making Israel Radioactive, and he doesn't care as long as he is the one dragging the country into the moral sewer. He is a small man in a big job playing on the most primitive emotions of his electorate while playing up to the messianic throngs in the orthodox and ultra-orthodox communities.

If this sounds familiar, it should. The messianic leader and the apocalyptic vision has gripped Israel and the USA, and is the foundational trope of 1984.
--Unclebugs; Far West Texas

I'm not sure there's much more that can be said regarding how much Netanyahu and his ultra-Orthodox allies have sullied Israel's once sterling reputation with most Americans.

Indeed, in the immediate post-October 7th period the support and sympathy most of us held for Israel was unbounded.

And then Netanyahu's response revealed a much uglier picture. One of an unbridled attack on a civilian population masked under the contention he was seeking to destroy Hamas.

It's been a bulldozer approach that has committed atrocity after atrocity (see today's BBC website for today's episode) and left millions homeless and starving.

And it has left a world totally bewildered as to how a people who suffered The Holocaust could visit such horrors upon another group -- a group, in fact, of indigenous neighbors.

Even at the outset, given the initial ferocity without nuance, there was a clamor that Israel would win the war and lose the peace.

That is now a given.

The world is sitting in horror over what has transpired in Gaza. Pictures of desperate people picking through rubble has flashed around the world. The images of starving children sear into collective memories akin the a naked girl fleeing in horror so long ago in Mai Lai.

Yes, Gaza is Israel's Viet Nam. It is a prime time TV war that exposes how an overpowering military force can win battles but lose honor.

Because of Netanyahu, many of us will never again see Israel in the same good light we once did.
George S.; NYC

more:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/12/opinion/israel-hamas-war-netanyahu.html#commentsContainer

"Israel bears a massive share of the guilt for this, but so do the American people. We funded this assault. We supplied the weapons. We gave it every shred of diplomatic support and credibility it could possibly wish."

for how much Longer
will WE Allow this
ONGOING Gen-
ocide to Con-
tinue?

@5, @15: Why do you call AIPAC “foreign”?

@11, 16:

is Israel
the fifty-first
State Wormtongue?

A. fuck NO.
even tho your
Buddies (Rs) invite
him to come Lecture
OUR President in Congress.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-campaign-video-boasts-of-lecturing-obama-in-the-oval-office/

@5, @15, @17: Why do you call AIPAC “foreign”? (Netanyahu is the Prime Minister of Israel. Republicans are Americans. What’s Netanyahu’s connection to running or financing AIPAC?)

Don't panic, TikTok isn't going anywhere because there's just too much money in it. If this bill passes, someone (probably multiple someones) will make ByteDance an offer they can't refuse, and that will be that.

@20 Hamas didn't engineer it, Israel shot themselves in the foot. Repeatedly.

Hamas didn't make Israel shoot unarmed civilians inside a convent.
Hamas didn't make Israel shoot unarmed civilians following "safe evacuation routes."
Hamas didn't make Israel shell an aid convoy waiting at an IDF inspection station.

That's all Israel's doing. IDF forces pulled the trigger. Maybe changing those things wouldn't change the total numbers of civilian casualties that much. But it sure would make a difference in the optics.

@22: Hamas literally engineered the network of tunnels in Gaza, many of which intentionally sit beneath civilian infrastructure.

When the IDF and Hamas fight in those tunnels, civilians in Gaza get injured and killed. Hamas has figuratively engineered those civilian casualties.

Hamas attacked Israel genocidally on 10/7, and also abducted civilians into Gaza. These abductions removed all doubt the IDF would follow Hamas into Gaza. So Hamas also engineered the IDF’s invasion of Gaza.

You can blame the IDF all you want; the above-recounted facts all remain true. The more you blame the IDF, the more likely Hamas will continue using tactics such as recounted above, thus leading to the injuries and deaths of more civilians in Gaza.

So, your choice: you can continue to be part of the problem, or you can try to be part of the solution. Because right now, by ignoring context, you’re doing exactly what Hamas wants.

@23 Were the civilians shot in an open convent courtyard in a tunnel? Nope. Were the civilians shot on the safe evacuation route in a tunnel? Golly, no. And that aid convoy? Not at all. The tunnels are irrelevant to all of those cases. Nice try with the red herrings.

The solution is for Israel's optics problem is to take substantive public action against the soldiers and commanders who commit war crimes. Until they do that, they'll keep shooting themselves in the foot by committing war crimes.

I like Neil Young but Jesus Christ - had no idea he treated his fans with such disrespect and thinks of us as children needing HIS protection. Does anyone know if his Spotify protest had any tangible effect on misinformation reduction?

Thank God there are celebrities out there protecting us from ourselves and our inability to discern shit from Shinola!

@24: The civilians were shot in Gaza because Hamas took actions to ensure civilians in Gaza would be caught in-between Hamas and the IDF.

On 9/11, members of the New York City Fire Department died in the World Trade Center. Many of the deaths happened because these responders refused clear orders from their incident commander to evacuate the structures. Did failures of command and control get fire fighters killed on 9/11? Yes. Could the NYFD learn from these failures? Yes. But to ignore Al-Qaeda’s role in getting fire fighters killed is counterproductive and grotesque, to say the least.

“The best political weapon
is the weapon of terror.
Cruelty commands re-
spect. Men may hate
us. But, we don’t ask
for their love; only
for their fear.”

--Heinrich Himmler
oft-noted Nazi
likely Died
by sui-
cide.

so if Planting
a bomb is Terrorism

then what is Dropping Bombs
on Civilians called? how ‘bout
we call it a fucking War Crime

and stop fucking
Funding it?

BiBi’s got
till 11/5.

Gazans,
they don’t
have as much

END the Massacre
mr President! Shut
Off the damn spigots

“Terrorism is the best political weapon
for nothing drives people harder
than a fear of sudden death.”
--Adolf Hitler

End the Terror.

@5, @15, @17: Why do you call AIPAC “foreign”? Godwin-ing the thread @27 does nothing to answer this.

@26 My, you can twist and turn every direction to avoid responsibility for the IDF.

There are two causal factors for the civilians getting shot. Yes, Hamas could have not started the current phase of the war. But Israeli soldiers pulled the trigger. Without either one, the civilian is still alive. The IDF still bears responsibility for their soldiers' choice to pull the trigger. Hamas didn't pull that trigger for them.

A better analogy is the abuses at Abu Ghraib. Sure, if the soldiers hadn't been sent there, they wouldn't have committed war crimes against the Iraqi inmates. But their own agency in committing those war crimes is what got them punished. Similarly, every IDF soldier has an obligation not to commit war crimes by targeting civilians. An obligation they repeatedly fail to meet. And when they fail to meet that obligation, there's no punishment.

So let's look at the aid convoy. It's stopped at an IDF checkpoint. An Israeli ship shells it, incidentally risking "friendly fire" casualties of IDF inspectors in the ground. So what's the excuse? Did they just not know what they were shooting at? That's not good. Did they know and not care? That's worse. Did the IDF ground forces not tell the naval forces where the inspection points were? That's malpractice in fighting the war because it risks "friendly fire" incidents. In none of these options does the IDF come out smelling like roses. And did anyone get punished or even get a stern talking to for an obvious fuckup? Nope, not that anyone knows.

@30 And according to you, nothing is a war crime because you can’t ever know if they really, really meant to commit a war crime. Unless Hamas does it, in which case everything is a war crime because … well, reasons.

from the Intercept:

The Left
is Finally Building
a Response To AIPAC*

AIPAC has become the key force against progressives in Democratic primaries, but a new coalition is seeking to protect the party’s left flank.

AFTER DECADES OF avoiding direct involvement in electoral politics, the country’s flagship Israel lobby group, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, formed a pair of political action committees in recent years and has been spending millions on political races.

Its targets have been progressives, with AIPAC becoming heavily involved in Democratic primaries. In addition to recruiting candidates to challenge incumbent Democrats, the group plans to spend at least $100 million on 2024 races.

Financed by AIPAC’s major donors, including Republican billionaires and key GOP funders, the 2021 launch of the Israel lobby’s new super PAC was readymade to outspend progressives.

AIPAC and its allies have reshaped the electoral field in key primaries, shifted the balance of power in Congress, and imposed costly consequences for criticism of U.S. support for Israel’s human rights abuses.

The Washington debate around the Israeli–Palestinian conflict has become particularly fraught amid Israel’s relentless assault on the Gaza Strip.

Even as the International Court of Justice ruled that a case against Israel for genocide should proceed, progressive members of Congress have been attacked for using the term — or, early on in the war, just for calling for a ceasefire.
--by Akela Lacy

much more on
Big Reichwing Money
STEALING OUR Elections:
https://theintercept.com/2024/03/11/reject-aipac-democratic-party-israel-progressives/

‘progressive
members of Congress
have been attacked for using the term Genocide’

ah
so
That’s where you get
your Marching Orders Wormmy

from AIPAC
who wouldda
ever Guessed it

*who Owns AIPAC?

the question is Why
does AIPAC OWN US?

@5, @15, @17, @27, @34: Why do you call AIPAC “foreign”? Your copypasta (which, in turn, The Intercept had cribbed from https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/11/reject-aipac-us-progressives-join-forces-against-pro-israel-lobby-group) says absolutely nothing of any kind whatsoever about foreign money or influence in AIPAC.

There’s nothing necessarily “foreign” in lobbying for closer ties with a longtime democratic ally, especially one located in a traditionally non-democratic part of the world.

So, yet again: why do you call AIPAC “foreign”?

@35
ad nauseum:

Israel's
Strongest
Lubbying Group
OWNS "our" Congress

and it's
no Surprise
You're in their
insidious Clutches.

bugger off
wormmy.

and
didja
Hear sus-
pected Jew
Schumer's FINALLY
gotten even His Fill of
Nutnyahoo's WAR CRIMES

Oh happy
Days
eh?

@5, @15, @17, @27, @34, @35: Why do you call AIPAC “foreign”? If it is financed by money from outside the United States, then why did Al-Jazeera not simply say that? (Indeed, why would Al-Jazeera not make that a major point of their story?) Ditto if foreigners sit on the board of directors (or however AIPAC is governed)?

So far, your “proof” seems to consist entirely of one word in AIPAC’s name, and that it lobbies for strong support of that ally. (And that you want to incite nativist hatred by condemning a “foreign” influence in our politics.) Given the ally in question is the sole democracy in a region of dictatorships, wouldn’t supporting that ally be a very ‘American’ thing to do?

'And
that you
want to incite
nativist hatred by
condemning a “foreign” influence"

no,
Wormtongue
I Do Not. I DO
want ISRAEL the
FUCK Outta what used
to be OUR Congress so's
WE the PEOPLE of the USOFA
are NOT FUNDING a Gott-Damn

ONGOING GENOCIDE.

which for some
Bizarre (to Me) reason
you seem to be Promoting

what, inadvertently?

in any case
seemingly
Blatantly.

remember This:

There is
NO Justification
for Terrorism. Fucking EVER.

now have a nice day.

@5, @15, @17, @27, @34, @35: Why do you call AIPAC “foreign”? @38: Why do you equate AIPAC to Israel? Are you just sloppily moving the goalposts again, or are you trying to shout your way past the total lack of evidence you’ve provided for AIPAC being “foreign”? Or are you trying to incite nativist hatred, because that’s all you’ve got?

Also, because you really cannot seem to understand this, just because you call something “GENOCIDE” doesn’t actually make it genocide, under the definition the entire world has used for decades, i.e. the Genocide Convention.

(That you can’t say whether Hamas committed genocide or not in Israel on 10/7 doesn’t exactly burnish your decision-making credentials on the use of the word, “genocide,” either. Just sayin.)

from: in the Public Interest:

Israeli Leaders’ Objective All Along has been the Expulsion of Occupied Palestinians and Seizure of Their Remaining Land

[gosh.
that's Not
genocide!?]

[who
Knew?].

The Israeli government’s “solution” to the Palestinian problem – eviction or destruction and colonization of what’s left of Palestinian land – did not begin after the October 7th Hamas raid. A November 22, 2023, article in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz headline reads,

'Netanyahu
Ignored All the
Warnings and Looming Threats.
He’s Primarily Responsible for the Calamity'

Instead of dealing with the clear warnings he was given, the Israeli prime minister focused on crushing democracy, establishing his status as the supreme ruler and transferring resources to the ultra-Orthodox and the settlements

[well
he was a little Busy
stealing Land to be PROTECTING ISRAEL]

(yet another
War Crime).

[but Not
Genocide?
oh! no Worries!]

[yes -- OUR!
Tax DOLLARS!!
HARD @ WORK!!!]

[but NOT
Genociding!
Whew! really Dodged
a Bullet there! oh -- sorry]

The article notes, “There’s no better proof of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s responsibility for the disaster suffered by Israel on October 7 than the letters of warning sent to him by the head of the Military Intelligence research division, Brig. Gen. Amit Saar, in March and July.”

[yeah.
but bibi had
Other Priorities].

For many decades Israeli politicians have been working toward the goal of establishing what they call “Eretz Israel” or “The Greater Land of Israel” – a greater Israel composed of all of the Palestine mandate “from the Sea to the River Jordan” (their words).

[if Only I had a Dime for Everytime
‘but the Concentration Campers
Just wanna Wipe Us OUT!’ I’d
be a Very wealthy person]

After the partition of Palestine under UN auspices in 1948, Israel has expanded its territory, by military and non-military means, and now comprises 78% of what was once Palestine, plus Syria’s Golan Heights.

[well
their Socialisms
and Hitting US UP for the
Genocidal Tab’s been quite Lovely]*

--by Ralph Nader
[edits all Mine]

more:
https://mailchi.mp/nader/israeli-leaders-objective-expulsion-of-palestinians-9ivtzwyd66?e=ae71353e32

and now
they’ve Aquired
A whole Bunch! more Land

*for Israel. now
Quit Whining:
it’s not even
Genocide.
Yet. Right
wormmy?

@39
so sorry
What was
it you's jus sayin'?

The article notes, “There’s no better proof of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s responsibility for the disaster suffered by Israel on October 7 than the letters of warning sent to him by the head of the Military Intelligence research division, Brig. Gen. Amit Saar, in March and July.”

all those Rapes
wormmy which bibi
Couldda fucking Prevented?!

"... the letters of warning sent to him by the head of the Military Intelligence research division, Brig. Gen. Amit Saar, in March and July.”

FUCKING
TWICE.

twice?!

small
Wonder
you bring
That up with
every other comment

bibi
was Asleep
at the Switch
and you're Covering
for him. how very Very Noble.

and the
War Crimes
continue to Pile up
much like the Death Count

end the fucking Madness

CEASEFIRE
NOW.

@5, @15, @17, @27, @34, @35, @40: Why do you call AIPAC "foreign"? What does Netanyahu's considerable (and possibly all self-inflicted) problems have to do with AIPAC?

Still can't decide if Hamas committed genocide* in Israel on 10/7? Or perhaps there's another reason?

"but I leave it up to
the grammar nazis to
plead their Case for Massacre."

Jahvul, mein Grammarfuehrer! Massacre it is, ja!

(https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2024/03/11/79422758/slog-am-boeings-mess-continues-kate-middletons-doctored-photo-washington-spends-1-million-a-day-trying-to-save-salmon/comments/21)

*Valid only for your own personal, double-secret definition of "genocide". Not to be confused with the definition in the Genocide Convention, which the entire rest of the world has used for decades.

“In what seemed like cruel mocking for many Gazans, days before Ramadan began, a resident said Israeli warplanes dropped leaflets over parts of northern Gaza that read, ‘May your fast be accepted, your sins forgiven and iftar delicious.’”

more:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/16/world/middleeast/gaza-ramadan.html

What could be Easier
for Gazans than
Fasting in a
Famine?

Well-Played
mr Nuthyahoo!

@42
speaking
of Grammar Nazis:

perhaps
we might
spring for
airdropped
Dictionaries
for the Genocided

who’’ll
likely Rejoice
when they Discover
it’s not REAL Genocide

so
whatchya
Say wormmy?

dictionaries or
Even MORE 2,000lb
Bunker Buster Bombs?

after all: it’s
OUR Money!?

"Hamas is no longer demanding that Israel immediately agree to a permanent cease-fire in return for beginning a hostage and prisoner exchange, according to people familiar with the negotiations."

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/03/16/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news#hamas-drops-demand-for-permanent-cease-fire-before-a-hostage-for-prisoner-exchange-officials-say

wormmy

were you Ever God Forbid
in a bank Robbery in Progress
and the Bad Guys told Everyone
to Get on the GROUND! You'd Argue, It's
NOT the Ground!!!! the Robbers'd shoot Every-
one, but there you'd Be clutching your Marrian Web-
ster's & Right-As-rain in Spring in Seattle . cheers to ya!

@43, etc.: So, have you officially abandoned your claims @5 and @17, about how AIPAC is “foreign,” and that this shadowy cabal of Jews controls the US government?

Because between first Johnstone and now xina getting your multiple loud approvals, I’m really worried about your continued slide toward actually quoting from the Protocols.

@46
ad Vomitas:

"Hamas is no longer demanding that Israel immediately agree to a permanent cease-fire in return for beginning a hostage and prisoner exchange, according to people familiar with the negotiations"

and
You wanna
chat a bit about
a journalist you Despise
because she's a Major Disturbance

to your
pro-corporate
world view. now bugger off

and Wave
buh-Bye
to bibi

unless of couorse
he can Sabotage
the Negotiations

his Sole
keep-outta-
Prison Gambit

oh
and I
Notice
how you
always sorta
Disappear when
xina* comes around

*xina's
got you
pegged.

@47: OK, so you've now run away from your claim (of AIPAC being "foreign") after I challenged it enough times? Good to know.

"oh
and I
Notice
how you
always sorta
Disappear when
xina* comes around"

I responded to xina here*. I noted her claim that Congress and the President can "codify" Supreme Court decisions was not merely wrong, but displayed her fundamental ignorance of how the US federal system of government works. She did not answer. So who, exactly, disappeared when questioned?

(From this, we can reasonably conclude your powers of observation have dramatically improved of late. Please keep up the good work!)

*https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2024/03/08/79418571/slog-am-another-boeing-bungle-bidens-energetic-state-of-the-union-wsu-greek-life-goes-dry/comments/77

@29: You are so determined to avoid assigning culpability for civilian deaths to the terrorists who created the situation which caused those deaths, that you ignored my clear explanation @25 & @27. Um, congratulations?

“There are two causal factors for the civilians getting shot. Yes, Hamas could have not started the current phase of the war.”

And another of those (more-than-two) causal factors was Hamas fleeing back into Gaza, which they had carefully prepared so as to make an IDF invasion very costly to the local civilian population. Had Hamas not fled back into Gaza, there would not have been any civilian casualties there.

You seem to assume Hamas has some kind of inalienable right to use civilians in Gaza as human shields against the IDF. It’s just bizarre.

“A better analogy is…” There is no better analogy than to where you simply ignore everything the terrorists did to get civilians killed, because that is exactly what you have repeatedly done in this comment thread.

@45: Obviously, you'd fare far better in that scenario. You'd enter the bank, pointing down at the floor and yelling about how anyone who doesn't agree with you that is obviously the "Ground," is the moral equivalent of a baby-butcher. Once the robbery was in progress, you would tell the robbers that your own personal, double-secret, never-to-be-recited definition of "Ground" was so incredibly nuanced, so intricately shaded, it's not really possible for you to agree they were instructing you to get down onto the floor (as you'd lecture them: not "Ground"). Good luck with that.

But your weird example does show you've started openly fantasizing about the violent and painful death of a critic, especially a critic whom you cannot bully into silence. As I've noted before in these threads, part of the fun of what I'm doing comes from watching your mask slip as I do it. Tell us, how does it feel as your excruciatingly ugly reality escapes around your facade, of claiming to care about children in places like Gaza?