@1
C’mon kristo
Plausible denial is all the rage, even when it’s not plausible;
‘The Seahawks are doing great!’
‘It’s not really genocide’
‘They’re just billionaires, how much harm could they do?’
‘The Supreme Court will put a stop to this nonsense’
‘The Mariners are just one overpriced player from the World Series!’
"New Orleans Attacker Visited the Site Twice: Shamsud-Din Jabbar, the man responsible for killing 14 people."
Mass killers (aka Grievance Killers) always engage in planning and use legally acquired means to complete their attacks. It's a characteristic of them.
They want to stick out. This guy used a vehicle, likely because he determined it to be the most effective means, and he, and his grievance, would also stick out from other grievance killers, because he used something other than a handgun or rifle.
I wish we had firearms restrictions that would have prevented this grievance killing. But for his access to firearms, he wouldn't have rented a pick-up and mowed down 47 people, killing 14. But for access to firearms, Grievance Killers never find the means to execute their premeditated and intentionally planned attacks. [Sarcasm]
It’s cool that you invented your own academic-sounding term and speak of it as though it’s a real concept that has been described by real experts in the field and not the brainfart of a bored internet weirdo who thinks he is an expert in everything. You even capitalized it so everyone can tell this is serious business.
@1 Don't worry your buddy's Bob and 1312 will be along shortly to remind us that crime is down overall and these sorts of things aren't really relevant. Also I'm sure these are just crimes of poverty for people that have inferior gear so those skiers/boarders should really check their privilege.
@7: Only after a headline poster here writes a mean-spirited, condescending post about how those whiny, overprivileged skiers need to stop listening to conservative politicians lie about crime (as everyone does in Seattle, apparently) and instead just repeat the Official Word that everything’s getting better!!
A word search for “grievance killer” turns up zero results in all 3 documents, and only 2 of the 3 include any reference at all to grievance. If you internet-search “grievance killer” in quotes it pulls up zero results, which is pretty astonishing if you think of the sheer volume of data online. You have to pluralize it to get any hits and even then there are very few mentions and they mostly refer to family annihilators and people who shoot up their workplace.
You’re speaking of the “Grievance Killer” authoritatively, even capitalizing it as though it’s a well-characterized psychological archetype when it’s just a term you made up.
We had a storm last year that dumped 20" of snow on Seattle?
As for congestion pricing: We basically have that already, at least cross-sound, but I really don't think there's a need for it in Seattle. Maybe in Bellevue. Those people are crazy.
Also the fbi document is specifically about shooters when your entire argument is that “Grievance Killers” will use whatever method is at their disposal or likely to gain the most notoriety.
@14, All three articles discuss people who engage in mass killing because of emotional grievances or wounds. Former Senator Diane Feinstein actually coined the term by putting grievance together with killing, based on the research that discusses the pathology of mass killers.
Now you are just camping on technicalities to deflect from the substantive underlying issue.
She didn’t coin anything. She used those words when pushing the assault rifle ban and now you are using it in a way that implies it’s some kind of psychological profile when it’s just an adjective and a noun that are almost entirely used to describe people who shoot their families or known acquaintances in the rare instances it’s used at all. The handful of times it shows up on a google search over the last 30 years it refers to shooters, which completely undermines your insistence that it has nothing to do with guns.
@5 as a pro-gun rights leftist whose opinion on the subject essentially tracks the famous Marx quote, I have to say if you were trying to push people into supporting gun control you couldn't be doing a better job than with these tone deaf nonsequiturs.
boarders
and skiiers
sick and tired
of losing their shit
petitioning Stevens Pass
for better theft/loss control?
"Representatives
for Stevens Pass said
reports of equipment theft
were actually down so far this year."
looks like we found
where mr magoo
works. so there
IS a Market
for that
sorta
shit.
o.k.
@1
C’mon kristo
Plausible denial is all the rage, even when it’s not plausible;
‘The Seahawks are doing great!’
‘It’s not really genocide’
‘They’re just billionaires, how much harm could they do?’
‘The Supreme Court will put a stop to this nonsense’
‘The Mariners are just one overpriced player from the World Series!’
Shithole country.
Bingo Pat_L
with the
certifiably
insane reap-
pointment of
eltrumpfster im-
plausable deniability
cum presidential impunity
is about to reach its Heyday
tiz cause for Celebration!
"It's Not Really Genocide!"
that's one for the Ages!
trotted out Here @tS
thrice-daily by AIPAC
if not oodles More.
"New Orleans Attacker Visited the Site Twice: Shamsud-Din Jabbar, the man responsible for killing 14 people."
Mass killers (aka Grievance Killers) always engage in planning and use legally acquired means to complete their attacks. It's a characteristic of them.
They want to stick out. This guy used a vehicle, likely because he determined it to be the most effective means, and he, and his grievance, would also stick out from other grievance killers, because he used something other than a handgun or rifle.
I wish we had firearms restrictions that would have prevented this grievance killing. But for his access to firearms, he wouldn't have rented a pick-up and mowed down 47 people, killing 14. But for access to firearms, Grievance Killers never find the means to execute their premeditated and intentionally planned attacks. [Sarcasm]
Sigh ...
It’s cool that you invented your own academic-sounding term and speak of it as though it’s a real concept that has been described by real experts in the field and not the brainfart of a bored internet weirdo who thinks he is an expert in everything. You even capitalized it so everyone can tell this is serious business.
@1 Don't worry your buddy's Bob and 1312 will be along shortly to remind us that crime is down overall and these sorts of things aren't really relevant. Also I'm sure these are just crimes of poverty for people that have inferior gear so those skiers/boarders should really check their privilege.
@d13r you missed
the Gist so you're
Still batting
1.000.
well-'played.'
@7: Only after a headline poster here writes a mean-spirited, condescending post about how those whiny, overprivileged skiers need to stop listening to conservative politicians lie about crime (as everyone does in Seattle, apparently) and instead just repeat the Official Word that everything’s getting better!!
@6, https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/spycatcher/201509/on-wound-collectors#:~:text=In%20essence%2C%20these%20are%20individuals,they%20don%27t%20move%20on.
@6, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/putting-psyche-back-into-psychotherapy/202401/the-agony-and-ecstasy-of-victimhood
@6, https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/pre-attack-behaviors-of-active-shooters-in-us-2000-2013.pdf/view
Note the discussion of grievance formation.
"This whole thing is a big deal for New York, but also for other American cities."
No, only for NYC. Never Seattle.
A word search for “grievance killer” turns up zero results in all 3 documents, and only 2 of the 3 include any reference at all to grievance. If you internet-search “grievance killer” in quotes it pulls up zero results, which is pretty astonishing if you think of the sheer volume of data online. You have to pluralize it to get any hits and even then there are very few mentions and they mostly refer to family annihilators and people who shoot up their workplace.
You’re speaking of the “Grievance Killer” authoritatively, even capitalizing it as though it’s a well-characterized psychological archetype when it’s just a term you made up.
We had a storm last year that dumped 20" of snow on Seattle?
As for congestion pricing: We basically have that already, at least cross-sound, but I really don't think there's a need for it in Seattle. Maybe in Bellevue. Those people are crazy.
Also the fbi document is specifically about shooters when your entire argument is that “Grievance Killers” will use whatever method is at their disposal or likely to gain the most notoriety.
@14, All three articles discuss people who engage in mass killing because of emotional grievances or wounds. Former Senator Diane Feinstein actually coined the term by putting grievance together with killing, based on the research that discusses the pathology of mass killers.
Now you are just camping on technicalities to deflect from the substantive underlying issue.
She didn’t coin anything. She used those words when pushing the assault rifle ban and now you are using it in a way that implies it’s some kind of psychological profile when it’s just an adjective and a noun that are almost entirely used to describe people who shoot their families or known acquaintances in the rare instances it’s used at all. The handful of times it shows up on a google search over the last 30 years it refers to shooters, which completely undermines your insistence that it has nothing to do with guns.
@5 as a pro-gun rights leftist whose opinion on the subject essentially tracks the famous Marx quote, I have to say if you were trying to push people into supporting gun control you couldn't be doing a better job than with these tone deaf nonsequiturs.
@18, If you read the links, its a very real profile.