The recipient of the grant is the slave of the grantor.
"Instead of telling Trump where to shove it, according to the New York Times, Harvard officials are weighing their options—what’s a liiiittle authoritarianism, if they get to keep their funding?"
That is the problem with relying on taxpayer supplied education, subsidies, healthcare, research, etc.
Recipients are at the mercy of whichever side prevailed in the last election.
It doesn't mean the government should not fund things, it just means that recipients must recognize they get what they get based on the fickle whim of changing taxpayer priorities.
I think we can all acknowledge some legitimate good news with the peace deal in Gaza. As the Slog commenter thirteen12 observes this morning in a comment on yesterday's Slog AM: "Never Harris voters are vindicated!"
I mean, just look. People in Israel are celebrating. People in Gaza are celebrating. Goodness knows they're celebrating the way thirteen12 must have been celebrating the night of November 5, 2024.
If President Trump isn't announced as the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize tomorrow, he should treat that provocation as nothing short of an act of war. The USA should unleash the hounds of hell and turn Oslo into the next Gaza City, or at least the next Chicago or Portland. Lay siege to those EV-driving, lingonberry-swilling Norwegians until they are forced to declare Trump the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize and at the same time revoke Obama's Nobel Peace Prize.
Serendipitously, this will be yet another example of our president's extraordinary ability to bring peace to the world! Consider it a down payment on Trump's compelling claim to become the first repeat winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.
In 1967 Woody Allen hosted a televised, theater event entitled " Woody Allen Looks at 1967," and during a segment in which William F. Buckley and Mr. Allen were asked about the recently concluded Six Day War" specifically, whether Israel should return the land they had captured, Woody replied "No I don’t think so. I think they should sell it back." [Audience applause and laughter]. Buckley was sanguine, averring on consequences of war itself “It’s unfashionable to say that they [war] do [have consequences], but this war does situate Israeli claims in a more viable way.”
It would take one more throw down on Yom Kippur in 1973, and some earnest diplomacy to finally reach the Camp David Accords in 1978. Cairo, the most dangerous of the Arab front line states, had had enough. The strategic position for Israel had dramatically improved. The next chapters of the conflict featured not invading Arab armies but the ragtag guerilla tactics of the PLO.
Allen's quip would prove prescient given the manner of the accord, as did Buckley's observation - wars may have severe consequences. As the current ceasefire goes into effect, the Middle East has already been transformed. Its now only a question of what the Israelis wish to sell, and what Hamas is willing to pay.
No one is happier than thumpus that the Israeli hostages in Gaza will be released! 😄 But securing the hostages is only the smallest and easiest of the steps toward peace. Lasting peace will require both the disarming of Hamas and the removal from government of Hamas.
In the past, Israel tolerated and even supported Hamas's governance in Gaza, under the mistaken theory that Hamas—the duly elected representatives of the Gazawi people—would be more interested in peace, prosperity, and governance than in jihad. In retrospect, the Israelis' confidence in a "peace-loving Hamas" was naive. October 7 revealed that the only peaceful muqawim is a dead muqawim.
In thumpus's judgment, Hamas is unlikely to agree to disarmament or exit from governance in Gaza, Point 13 of the 20-point peace plan. More likely is that they will pretend to take Point 13 under advisement while actually retaining their weapons and undermining the Palestinian Authority whenever the PA finally returns to Gaza, Point 9 of the 20-point plan.
Hamas's refusal-by-inaction to disarm will place Israel in a tight spot. The most just Israeli reaction to an armed Hamas would be resumption of the war, but I suspect Israel's international allies would exert enough pressure to prevent Israel's return to full-scale combat. 😄
Instead, I suspect the most likely outcome in Gaza will be a miniature version of the outcome in Lebanon last year. In Lebanon, the government agreed to disarm Hizbollah and remove it from south of the Litani River in exchange for Israel's withdrawl from southern Lebanon and a cessation of Israeli air and artillery strikes. Hizbollah in fact retained its weapons and its presence in southern Lebanon, in violation of the peace deal. Fair enough, Israel also retained its most important firebases in Lebanon and continued its air and artillery strikes throughout the length and breadth of Lebanon, although Israel did cease infantry and armor operations in Lebanon, other than defense of the firebases.
Something similar is likely to be the outcome in Gaza. Under the current phase of the peace plan, Israel will withdraw to the "yellow line," which varies in depth from as little as 1500 meters from the border in central Gaza up to 3500 meters in northern Gaza and an astonishing 6500 meters in Rafah, with around 2000–2500 meters of depth along the Philadelphia Corridor, Hamas's principal route for rearmament. If Hamas actually disarms and exits government, Israel will withdraw the rest of the way out Gaza, but if not, Israel will retain the yellow-line buffer (amounting to more than half of Gaza's acreage) and conduct air and artillery strikes on targets of opportunity throughout Gaza—the "Lebanon outcome" except in a smaller territory.
A "Lebanon outcome" in Gaza would obviously be something other than peace. Israel still be dropping rounds on fools! 💥 But it's a good-enough outcome for Israel, in that it keeps Hamas under fire, hinders their rearmament, pushes them back from the border, and keeps enough Palestinian land in Israeli hands that the Israelis still have bargaining chips for some future day when and if Hamas finally exits the scene. Thumpus will take it. 😃
For a lasting peace, Israel will have to deal with the Palestinians driven out of Israel and a removal of the settlements (all illegal) in the Palestine West Bank.
But the start is they have stopped shooting at each other.
Maybe more Palestinians would reject Hamas if some other party could resolve these issues.
@5: "For a lasting peace, Israel will have to deal with the Palestinians driven out of Israel"
Probably not. The Arabs in Israel had their chance to live under Israeli sovereignty in 1948, and most of them instead chose war—a war which they and their foreign Arab allies promptly lost. That's the risk one runs in war. No takebacks, no do-overs. 😂 Those Arabs who did stay are today's Israeli-Arabs, but the ones who left can stay Palestinian, since that was their preference at the time. 😄
Incidentally, the pre-Israeli Jews who once lived in the territory conquered by the Arab Legion, including the so-called "West Bank," suffered the same fate, and they don't have a "right of return" either. They chose a side in war, and that side lost.
@5: "and a removal of the settlements (all illegal) in the Palestine West Bank."
Not necessarily. In a future state of Palestine, the Jewish settlers in the West Bank should be offered the same deal the Arabs in Israel were offered in 1948: stay and live in peace as "Jewish Palestinians," or else decamp for Israel. 😆
At first thought, because Antifa is a movement without a defined organization the Trump admin couldn't do anything with it - but now it's a handy umbrella classification for them.
@7: Damn. At the mere threat of his favorite war going away, @5 wanks hard and furiously to a revenge-fantasy ethnic cleansing of Jews, and you just throw a cold-water bucket of facts all over his best efforts.
"It showed the incumbents what many of us already knew: their records suck, and it’s time for something new."
Here's Ballard Commons before Harrell/Nelson/Davison:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/fire-ballard-commons-encampment-stirs-up-debate-next-steps/UU2CR2GNQVGH5JQWU2SKWWZCJU/
Here's Ballard Commons after Harrell/Nelson/Davison:
https://myballard.com/2025/07/11/movies-in-the-park-returns-to-the-ballard-commons-park-this-summer/
I wonder if this return of the public park to public use is an example of the sucking Hannah references. Does she really think it was better when there was a quasi permanent encampment taking over the park?
@11 They literally just moved all the homeless people from Ballard Commons and their tents across the street to the abandoned Joann Fabrics parking lot where they openly do drugs and leave needles everywhere... lol. Awesome example. Performative bullshit that didn't solve a goddamn thing but made for a cool headline.
@10: I should start a peace protest movement for people who actually want peace:
"From the river to the sea, Palestine kept weapons-free!"
"There is only one solution: two-state UN resolution!"
"We don't want no one state! We want two, like '48!"
"Success, success to the IDF! Success, success to the PNSF!"
"Ilhan Omar, you can't hide! You made up a genocide!"
"Intifada, intifada, squash the global intifada!"
"Terrorists aren't justified, no matter who's occupied!"
@12 Ballard Commons was cleared in Dec 2021 while Joann Fabrics didn't close until spring 2025 so no, they didn't just move the tents across the street. And the JF parking lot is clear and fenced off, not full of druggies and used needles. You're not even close to reality.
‘Israel’s government approved an agreement brokered by the Trump administration to free the remaining hostages held by Hamas and establish a cease-fire in Gaza, sealing a diplomatic breakthrough after months of failed talks.
‘The U.S. is sending about 200 troops to Israel to support a cease-fire in Gaza as part of an international team, according to U.S. officials.
‘The troops will support a “civil-military coordination center” which will be established by U.S. Central Command. It will help to facilitate humanitarian aid being sent to Gaza and assist with security in the Palestinian enclave.’
[…]
‘Gaza civilians, too, are desperate for an end to a war that has brought hunger and repeated dislocation as the fighting spread. Many have said they understand Hamas’s reservations about the terms but want the group to accept them and end the war. Hopeful Palestinians also stayed up through the night, glued to their phones for news of a deal.
‘Egyptian officials and others briefed on the deal said mediators are still hashing out the arrangements for Hamas to return the roughly 20 hostages believed to be alive in Gaza, in addition to the bodies of around 28 others. In exchange, Israel has to agree to a list of Palestinian prisoners it will set free.’
"It showed the incumbents what many of us already knew: their records suck, and it’s time for something new. Bye, Felicia."
New isn't always better and I'm sure voters will come to realize that when Wilson's policies make things worse. No one liked the progressive council either so I expect we'll see an even bigger backlash in 4 years.
@11, @21: And as @12 unwittingly revealed, the Stranger's "something new" is actually just worn out, not-even-re-treads of their old failed policies: housing first, meet them where they are, harm reduction for criminals (meaning harm increases for everyone else) -- all propped up by lies so old, they've long ago petrified into mantras: "They literally just moved all the homeless people from Ballard Commons and their tents across the street..." As @17 noted, this literally wasn't true, but progressives in Seattle have repeated their "sweeps merely move people around" lie to each other for so long, they no longer even bother to open their eyes to see if it's true or not. (Plus, they're not about to miss a chance at the smug satisfaction of declaring that someone else's policies have failed as badly, and as obviously, as progressive policies have.)
For the sake of argument, assume for a moment @12 was correct, that the only effect was to restore the use of Ballard Commons to everyone, so the residents of Ballard could enjoy old movies together. Dismissing that as "Performative bullshit that didn't solve a goddamn thing but made for a cool headline" reveals nicely the utter contempt progressives have for their fello citizens. Unless you Solve Homelessness, Solve Crime -- and you solve those in the one and only "correct" progressive manner -- well then, you don't deserve a shared public space for everyone's benefit. You deserve only needles, filth, crime, and misery -- forever.
@13 I wonder how many lives would have been saved if European Jews didn't flood into and start stealing the territory 80-ish years ago. History didn't start on 10/7/23 as much as your position depends on everyone believing it did.
@24: lol nobody stole anything. Israel is the indigenous and unceded homeland of the Jews and has been since forever. The Arabs had the chance to coexist in peace and sovereignty, but instead most of them preferred to try war. Plus ca change! 😂
@24: Of the great many benefits of this advancing peace, a very small -- yet very satisfying! -- one comes from watching you 'from the river to the sea' people mope, whine, and pout. Your precious, precious war is finally ending, but in a way you really, really don't like. After all of your caterwauling about deaths in Gaza, you can't (publicly) admit you'd rather have the war drag on than face the 'wrong' outcome, but it shows through anyway -- and it's delicious. Please keep up the good whine!
@22 "Unless you Solve Homelessness, Solve Crime -- and you solve those in the one and only "correct" progressive manner"
and let's be clear what that means. Seattle needs to have solutions for addiction, poverty and economic inequality, things that have existed as long as there have been people. Of course if Wilson fails (as she is destined to do) it will only be because we weren't extreme enough. Gonna be a fun four years.
@27: It was never about Gaza, it was never about a “genocide.” They thought this was their big chance to bring down the Jewish state. 😆 They were willing to throw the election to Trump to do it! 🤣 But it was all for nothing. Hamas flopped, and now the future of the “antizionist resistance” looks bleaker than ever. Even most Palestinian civilians are ready to try boring old peaceful coexistence, at least for a couple years! 🤣 No wonder the lefties are in a sulk! 😝
@25 ok "genius" but the reason that one worked is because city officials at the time (which did not include Harrell or Nelson) learned lessons and implemented a new strategy:
"The Ballard Commons and Bitter Lake removals are part of a new approach the city and its nonprofit contractors are trying — instead of posting notices for residents of large encampments saying they must disperse in days, outreach workers try to move them inside, leveraging new pandemic investments in shelter and housing.
...
Over the last three months, 42 people left the Ballard Commons encampment to new tiny house villages, 18 to shelters, and six to housing. Eleven people remained in the camp Tuesday morning when cleanup crews arrived and were forced to leave.
“The encampment removal lasted two-and-a-half months rather than two-and-a-half days,” said Dan Strauss, Ballard’s City Council member. “And the difference there means that people are being moved inside and trust is built and relationships are built, rather than displacement policies that create friction and animosity.”
Gosh if only Egypt and transJordan hadn’t invaded Israel on May 15, 1948 then there would currently be a Palestinian state larger than Gaza and the West Bank combined.
But as @27 points out; for Nazis like you this was never about a free Palestine but was just an opportunity to kill Jews.
Considering that for the first 30 months of his time in office Mayor Harrell was hampered in his efforts to clear the encampments by the Martin v Boise ruling I think he has done a great job of cleaning up the city. And the effort has accelerated in the 15 months since the Grants Pass decision.
I would love to see his progress continue for the next four years.
@24: " I wonder how many lives would have been saved if European Jews didn't flood into and start stealing the territory..."
Yeah, if only there had been a concerted effort to end the very existence of all European Jews in the decade before Israel was even founded, then maybe we wouldn't have the problem of a vibrant democracy in the Middle East!
We can all see where you're going with this, and your eagerness to go there comes not merely from your blind ignorance of Israel's actual demographics and history. (Although, as always, ignorance remains your greatest strength.)
History didn't start in 1948, as much as your position depends on everyone believing it did.
@30: B-B-But sweeps only move homeless persons from one encampment in Seattle to another! (I have read this many times in the Stranger, so obviously it simply must be 100% true.) So why haven't Mayor Harrell's many sweeps caused another encampment on Ballard Commons?
@33: Even if it were true that sweeps “only” shifted homeless camps from one location to another, that still would be an argument in favor of sweeps. Shifting the camps distributes the burden of hosting the camps more evenly across the city, instead of forcing only certain blocks to bear the entire burden while the rest of the city bears none. Fairness! 😃
But obviously sweeps do more than just shift the camps. For one thing, sweeps provide a chance to conduct environmental cleanups; for another, sweeps are touch points to connect people with services who want them; and for another, sweeps are opportunities to arrest criminal suspects for whom warrants have been issued. 😄
No, sweeps don’t single-handedly solve homelessness, but neither does any other intervention. Homeless is a product of many factors both systemic and personal, and solving it will require efforts of various kinds at various levels … including sweeps! 😄
@13: "I wonder how many lives could have been saved had Hammas agreed to free all of the hostages 12 months ago, or 18, or 24."
Are you still pretending to care about the lives of Gazans? That's sooooooooooo 72 hours ago! ;-)
The Stranger, and all supportive commenters, have since moved on. Now, it's about blaming Israel's existence for all problems in that region. (OK, that's actually been the entire point for the two full years before 72 hours ago, but now they have no more war behind which to hide it.)
@30 Your link is from 2021 and doesn't explain why the park has stayed clear since then, it simply says that 3 months of coddling resulted in more campers taking up shelter offers than 3 days did. The park has stayed clear because the city has acted quickly whenever a new tent appears so it doesn't grow into an encampment. From 2024:
"Ballard Commons Park has stayed clear largely because of another type of removal, one in which the city’s laws allow it to move people without offering shelter if they are an “obstruction,” which the city defines as any tent that exists within a park.
Lori Baxter, a spokesperson for the mayor’s office, said the city learned the community had a particular interest in keeping Ballard Commons Park accessible, and said maintenance of this area “contributes to an improved relationship between housed and unhoused neighbors in Ballard.”
The city offers people shelter and provides advance notice of removals when possible, she said, but quickly addressing tents in the park prevents a full-scale encampment from forming, which would require a greater amount of limited city resources. "
@35 don’t worry, it will take a couple days but they’ll pivot from genocide to apartheid. They need to find something before the 12th or Sawants big rally that she has been pimping on TS all week won’t have much to yell about.
@36 none of what you quoted was any new policy or unique to Harrell or Nelson. Also from the article:
"After the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention instructed cities to stop clearing encampments to prevent the spread of COVID-19, an encampment formed at the Ballard Commons"
So to recap: pandemic era policies caused the encampment to form, the city resolved it prior to Harrell or Nelson taking office, and it hasn't formed again thanks to policies that predate either of them. Your idea that Harrell or Nelson are responsible for cleaning up the Commons is incorrect and based on nothing. "Genius."
@37: oh god that’s right, Sawant is campaigning for congress on a platform of ending the “genocide.” 😆 Well, she must be a bigger Trump supporter than ever now with this peace plan! 🤣
@38 From the linked articles, (1) the Ballard Commons tents arrived after the clearing of the "jungle" in the mid to late teens, (2) the encampment grew during the pandemic, (3) sweeps occurred in 2019, 2020, and 2021, and (4) only after the Dec 2021 sweep was the park kept clear. Now, what changed after 2021? Its not hard to figure out.
@37, @39: Looks like our friends on the far left really are losing their favorite toy. From the WSJ:
“The Israeli military said Friday a cease-fire in Gaza went into effect at noon local time, setting the stage for the release of the remaining hostages and an influx of humanitarian aid into the territory.”
Well, once the world’s blame for starving Gazans shifted firmly with Hamas, it was no more fun to mention anyway.
Remember:
bibi's facing
Serious Jail Time
should his War on Palestinians
pause long enough for Israel's (non-
fascist) Jews to catch their collective Breaths
and Remember
just Who's
Been In
Charge
so his
Motivation
for Devastation
has Not Gone Away
@52, @55: For the past two years, the Stranger and supportive commenters have been completely, utterly, totally wrong about everything and anything concerning Israel and war. The point on which they most achingly wanted to be proven right was the war in Gaza going badly — and ending worse — for Israel. Every other military action in the region already ended favorably for Israel, and now the war in Gaza is ending favorably for Israel as well. Our friends here just can’t take it. If even one little thing had gone their way, they might have some tiny consolation — but they have nothing. Nothing. (It’s not even the “genocide” they won’t stop proclaiming, either.)
So, having been proven completely wrong in every last one of their previous predictions, they immediately respond with very confident predictions about what will happen next. And what do they predict — IOW, what do they most desperately crave? — a resumption of the very bloodletting they previously claimed to oppose. If only the war would start again, then maybe this time, it wouldn’t end well for Israel! When it comes to all of those civilians they supposedly cared about, our friends here would rather watch more of them die, than accept a reality wherein Israel wins. That’s the type of people the Stranger and supportive commenters truly are, and they’re not happy in finally getting exposed as such.
@58: Gawd, it's hilarious, watching this crowd become ever-more bitter as the peace deal moves slowly forward, crushing their hopes, without regard as about how THEY feel. Having accidentally admitted how much they hate any peace which contains favorable terms for Israel, they're left flailing around, ever-more-desperately trying to point their fingers at everyone else.
A truly pathetic end to a truly pathetic performance.
There will be no peace in Gaza.
Only the temporary absence of war.
There is no shortage of failed peace plans in occupied Palestine,
all of them incorporating detailed phases and timelines,
going back to the presidency of Jimmy Carter. They
end the same way. Israel gets what it wants initially
~in the latest case the release of the remaining
Israeli hostages!while it ignores and violates
every other phase until it resumes its
attacks on the Palestinian people.
It is a sadistic game.
A merry-go-round of death.
This ceasefire, like those of the past,
is a commercial break. A moment when the
condemned man is allowed to smoke a cigarette
before being gunned down in a fusillade of bullets.
Once Israeli hostages are released,
the genocide will continue. I do not know
how soon. Let’s hope the mass slaughter is delayed
for at least a few weeks. But a pause in the genocide
is the best we can anticipate. Israel is on the cusp of em-
ptying Gaza, which has been all but obliterated under two
years of relentless bombing. It is not about to be stopped.
This is the culmination of the Zionist dream.
The United States, which has given Israel
a staggering $22 billion in military aid
since Oct, 7, 2023, will not shut
down its pipeline, the only
tool that might halt
the genocide.
Israel,
as it always does,
will blame Hamas and
the Palestinians for failing
to abide by the agreement,
most probably a refusal~true
or not~to disarm, as the proposal
demands. Washington, condemning
Hamas’s supposed violation, will give
Israel the green light to continue its genocide
to create Trump’s fantasy of a Gaza Riviera and
“special economic zone” with its “voluntary” relo-
cation of Palestinians in exchange for digital tokens.
--by Chris Hedges; October 10, 2025
from The Chris Hedges Report
Of the myriads of peace plans over the decades,
the current one is the least serious. Aside from
a demand that Hamas release the hostages
within 72-hours after the ceasefire begins,
it lacks specifics and imposed timetables.
It is filled with caveats that allow
Israel to abrogate the agreement.
And that is the point.
It is not designed to be a viable path to peace,
which most Israeli leaders understand.
Israel’s largest-circulation newspaper,
Israel Hayom, established by the late
casino magnate Sheldon Adelson
to serve as a mouthpiece for
Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu and champ-
ion messianic Zionism,
instructed its readers
not to be concerned about the
Trump plan because it is only “rhetoric.”
a slight correction of a typo made in the pasting:
"They end the same way. Israel gets what it wants initially
~in the latest case the release of the remaining
Israeli hostages~while it ignores and violates
every other phase until it resumes its
attacks on the Palestinian people."
"Gawd,
it's hilarious,
watching this crowd
become ever-more bitter
as the peace deal moves slowly forward,
crushing their hopes, without regard as about how THEY feel.
A truly pathetic end to a truly pathetic performance."
--@thumpfnsorna on October 10, 2025 at 7:32 PM
"Why aren't the Free Palestine people cheering about the ceasefire?"
If you saw a man beating a child into a coma, would you cheer after the beating stopped? No, your first reaction would be horror at what happened and your second would be fear that he'll attack the kid again.
--@Caitlin Johnstone; @caitoz.bsky.social
·
but they're not Cheering!
but they're not Cheering!
but they're not Cheering!
yeah
we Heard ya
the First Time, wormmy:
"A truly pathetic end to a truly pathetic performance."
"Even if the ceasefire holds,
we're still going to see the results
of months of starvation conditions,
which means more death caused by the
country that now wants us to applaud their restraint."
'SIFF announced on Thursday morning that they're ending their lease with the Egyptian. The movie theater has been closed since a pipe burst and flooded the building in 2024, and in a press release, the nonprofit said that reopening "would not have contributed to SIFF's long-term organizational stability." Seattle Central still owns the building, but it's not clear what'll happen to it yet.'
Sadly, this may well be the end of the line for that fine old movie palace. The land is certainly worth more than the building, and the repair cost for an unreinforced masonry structure in an earthquake zone would be prohibitive anyway.
But what memories! The packed house rising as one to our feet at the end of "Ghost World," with Daniel Clowes and Thora Birch in attendance. Christopher Nolan's "Memento" had the Seattle premiere there. The Midnight Film Fest, the Secret Film Fest, all that SIFF brought. SIFF extended the Egyptian's service life, first by providing excellent programming when the Egyptian was externally owned, then by taking over operations directly.
Another great piece of Seattle slides into memory, never to be experienced by anyone growing up there now.
A truly pathetic end to a truly great performance.
The recipient of the grant is the slave of the grantor.
"Instead of telling Trump where to shove it, according to the New York Times, Harvard officials are weighing their options—what’s a liiiittle authoritarianism, if they get to keep their funding?"
That is the problem with relying on taxpayer supplied education, subsidies, healthcare, research, etc.
Recipients are at the mercy of whichever side prevailed in the last election.
It doesn't mean the government should not fund things, it just means that recipients must recognize they get what they get based on the fickle whim of changing taxpayer priorities.
I think we can all acknowledge some legitimate good news with the peace deal in Gaza. As the Slog commenter thirteen12 observes this morning in a comment on yesterday's Slog AM: "Never Harris voters are vindicated!"
https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2025/10/08/80273469/slog-am-seattle-paid-millions-in-rent-for-hotel-it-stopped-using-as-shelter-hundreds-of-everest-hikers-escape-blizzard-the-mariners-won-aga/comments/32
I mean, just look. People in Israel are celebrating. People in Gaza are celebrating. Goodness knows they're celebrating the way thirteen12 must have been celebrating the night of November 5, 2024.
If President Trump isn't announced as the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize tomorrow, he should treat that provocation as nothing short of an act of war. The USA should unleash the hounds of hell and turn Oslo into the next Gaza City, or at least the next Chicago or Portland. Lay siege to those EV-driving, lingonberry-swilling Norwegians until they are forced to declare Trump the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize and at the same time revoke Obama's Nobel Peace Prize.
Serendipitously, this will be yet another example of our president's extraordinary ability to bring peace to the world! Consider it a down payment on Trump's compelling claim to become the first repeat winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.
In 1967 Woody Allen hosted a televised, theater event entitled " Woody Allen Looks at 1967," and during a segment in which William F. Buckley and Mr. Allen were asked about the recently concluded Six Day War" specifically, whether Israel should return the land they had captured, Woody replied "No I don’t think so. I think they should sell it back." [Audience applause and laughter]. Buckley was sanguine, averring on consequences of war itself “It’s unfashionable to say that they [war] do [have consequences], but this war does situate Israeli claims in a more viable way.”
It would take one more throw down on Yom Kippur in 1973, and some earnest diplomacy to finally reach the Camp David Accords in 1978. Cairo, the most dangerous of the Arab front line states, had had enough. The strategic position for Israel had dramatically improved. The next chapters of the conflict featured not invading Arab armies but the ragtag guerilla tactics of the PLO.
Allen's quip would prove prescient given the manner of the accord, as did Buckley's observation - wars may have severe consequences. As the current ceasefire goes into effect, the Middle East has already been transformed. Its now only a question of what the Israelis wish to sell, and what Hamas is willing to pay.
No one is happier than thumpus that the Israeli hostages in Gaza will be released! 😄 But securing the hostages is only the smallest and easiest of the steps toward peace. Lasting peace will require both the disarming of Hamas and the removal from government of Hamas.
In the past, Israel tolerated and even supported Hamas's governance in Gaza, under the mistaken theory that Hamas—the duly elected representatives of the Gazawi people—would be more interested in peace, prosperity, and governance than in jihad. In retrospect, the Israelis' confidence in a "peace-loving Hamas" was naive. October 7 revealed that the only peaceful muqawim is a dead muqawim.
In thumpus's judgment, Hamas is unlikely to agree to disarmament or exit from governance in Gaza, Point 13 of the 20-point peace plan. More likely is that they will pretend to take Point 13 under advisement while actually retaining their weapons and undermining the Palestinian Authority whenever the PA finally returns to Gaza, Point 9 of the 20-point plan.
Hamas's refusal-by-inaction to disarm will place Israel in a tight spot. The most just Israeli reaction to an armed Hamas would be resumption of the war, but I suspect Israel's international allies would exert enough pressure to prevent Israel's return to full-scale combat. 😄
Instead, I suspect the most likely outcome in Gaza will be a miniature version of the outcome in Lebanon last year. In Lebanon, the government agreed to disarm Hizbollah and remove it from south of the Litani River in exchange for Israel's withdrawl from southern Lebanon and a cessation of Israeli air and artillery strikes. Hizbollah in fact retained its weapons and its presence in southern Lebanon, in violation of the peace deal. Fair enough, Israel also retained its most important firebases in Lebanon and continued its air and artillery strikes throughout the length and breadth of Lebanon, although Israel did cease infantry and armor operations in Lebanon, other than defense of the firebases.
Something similar is likely to be the outcome in Gaza. Under the current phase of the peace plan, Israel will withdraw to the "yellow line," which varies in depth from as little as 1500 meters from the border in central Gaza up to 3500 meters in northern Gaza and an astonishing 6500 meters in Rafah, with around 2000–2500 meters of depth along the Philadelphia Corridor, Hamas's principal route for rearmament. If Hamas actually disarms and exits government, Israel will withdraw the rest of the way out Gaza, but if not, Israel will retain the yellow-line buffer (amounting to more than half of Gaza's acreage) and conduct air and artillery strikes on targets of opportunity throughout Gaza—the "Lebanon outcome" except in a smaller territory.
A "Lebanon outcome" in Gaza would obviously be something other than peace. Israel still be dropping rounds on fools! 💥 But it's a good-enough outcome for Israel, in that it keeps Hamas under fire, hinders their rearmament, pushes them back from the border, and keeps enough Palestinian land in Israeli hands that the Israelis still have bargaining chips for some future day when and if Hamas finally exits the scene. Thumpus will take it. 😃
For a lasting peace, Israel will have to deal with the Palestinians driven out of Israel and a removal of the settlements (all illegal) in the Palestine West Bank.
But the start is they have stopped shooting at each other.
Maybe more Palestinians would reject Hamas if some other party could resolve these issues.
Joni Balter is a fucking moron. That she keeps getting moderator/panelist/education gigs is a sad reflection on the institutions who hire her.
@5: "For a lasting peace, Israel will have to deal with the Palestinians driven out of Israel"
Probably not. The Arabs in Israel had their chance to live under Israeli sovereignty in 1948, and most of them instead chose war—a war which they and their foreign Arab allies promptly lost. That's the risk one runs in war. No takebacks, no do-overs. 😂 Those Arabs who did stay are today's Israeli-Arabs, but the ones who left can stay Palestinian, since that was their preference at the time. 😄
Incidentally, the pre-Israeli Jews who once lived in the territory conquered by the Arab Legion, including the so-called "West Bank," suffered the same fate, and they don't have a "right of return" either. They chose a side in war, and that side lost.
@5: "and a removal of the settlements (all illegal) in the Palestine West Bank."
Not necessarily. In a future state of Palestine, the Jewish settlers in the West Bank should be offered the same deal the Arabs in Israel were offered in 1948: stay and live in peace as "Jewish Palestinians," or else decamp for Israel. 😆
At first thought, because Antifa is a movement without a defined organization the Trump admin couldn't do anything with it - but now it's a handy umbrella classification for them.
@3: Found it! It's a delight to watch - they are both very funny taking questions from the audience.
https://youtu.be/GNErWi_lTig
@7: Damn. At the mere threat of his favorite war going away, @5 wanks hard and furiously to a revenge-fantasy ethnic cleansing of Jews, and you just throw a cold-water bucket of facts all over his best efforts.
You’re a cruel man.
;-)
"It showed the incumbents what many of us already knew: their records suck, and it’s time for something new."
Here's Ballard Commons before Harrell/Nelson/Davison:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/fire-ballard-commons-encampment-stirs-up-debate-next-steps/UU2CR2GNQVGH5JQWU2SKWWZCJU/
Here's Ballard Commons after Harrell/Nelson/Davison:
https://myballard.com/2025/07/11/movies-in-the-park-returns-to-the-ballard-commons-park-this-summer/
I wonder if this return of the public park to public use is an example of the sucking Hannah references. Does she really think it was better when there was a quasi permanent encampment taking over the park?
@11 They literally just moved all the homeless people from Ballard Commons and their tents across the street to the abandoned Joann Fabrics parking lot where they openly do drugs and leave needles everywhere... lol. Awesome example. Performative bullshit that didn't solve a goddamn thing but made for a cool headline.
I wonder how many lives could have been saved had Hammas agreed to free all of the hostages 12 months ago, or 18, or 24.
@10: I should start a peace protest movement for people who actually want peace:
"From the river to the sea, Palestine kept weapons-free!"
"There is only one solution: two-state UN resolution!"
"We don't want no one state! We want two, like '48!"
"Success, success to the IDF! Success, success to the PNSF!"
"Ilhan Omar, you can't hide! You made up a genocide!"
"Intifada, intifada, squash the global intifada!"
"Terrorists aren't justified, no matter who's occupied!"
😂😂😂
@13 - I wonder - but doesn't make sense to dwell on and go down that road.
The easiest mark is smart one.
@12 Ballard Commons was cleared in Dec 2021 while Joann Fabrics didn't close until spring 2025 so no, they didn't just move the tents across the street. And the JF parking lot is clear and fenced off, not full of druggies and used needles. You're not even close to reality.
Are there hostages left alive?
Speaking of Ballard, anyone had that Spaghetti Pizza at Serious Pie in Ballard? That ad we're seeing haunts me.
‘Israel’s government approved an agreement brokered by the Trump administration to free the remaining hostages held by Hamas and establish a cease-fire in Gaza, sealing a diplomatic breakthrough after months of failed talks.
‘The U.S. is sending about 200 troops to Israel to support a cease-fire in Gaza as part of an international team, according to U.S. officials.
‘The troops will support a “civil-military coordination center” which will be established by U.S. Central Command. It will help to facilitate humanitarian aid being sent to Gaza and assist with security in the Palestinian enclave.’
[…]
‘Gaza civilians, too, are desperate for an end to a war that has brought hunger and repeated dislocation as the fighting spread. Many have said they understand Hamas’s reservations about the terms but want the group to accept them and end the war. Hopeful Palestinians also stayed up through the night, glued to their phones for news of a deal.
‘Egyptian officials and others briefed on the deal said mediators are still hashing out the arrangements for Hamas to return the roughly 20 hostages believed to be alive in Gaza, in addition to the bodies of around 28 others. In exchange, Israel has to agree to a list of Palestinian prisoners it will set free.’
(https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-hamas-gaza-hostage-ceasefire-deal-815d533f?mod=mhp)
"It showed the incumbents what many of us already knew: their records suck, and it’s time for something new. Bye, Felicia."
New isn't always better and I'm sure voters will come to realize that when Wilson's policies make things worse. No one liked the progressive council either so I expect we'll see an even bigger backlash in 4 years.
@11, @21: And as @12 unwittingly revealed, the Stranger's "something new" is actually just worn out, not-even-re-treads of their old failed policies: housing first, meet them where they are, harm reduction for criminals (meaning harm increases for everyone else) -- all propped up by lies so old, they've long ago petrified into mantras: "They literally just moved all the homeless people from Ballard Commons and their tents across the street..." As @17 noted, this literally wasn't true, but progressives in Seattle have repeated their "sweeps merely move people around" lie to each other for so long, they no longer even bother to open their eyes to see if it's true or not. (Plus, they're not about to miss a chance at the smug satisfaction of declaring that someone else's policies have failed as badly, and as obviously, as progressive policies have.)
For the sake of argument, assume for a moment @12 was correct, that the only effect was to restore the use of Ballard Commons to everyone, so the residents of Ballard could enjoy old movies together. Dismissing that as "Performative bullshit that didn't solve a goddamn thing but made for a cool headline" reveals nicely the utter contempt progressives have for their fello citizens. Unless you Solve Homelessness, Solve Crime -- and you solve those in the one and only "correct" progressive manner -- well then, you don't deserve a shared public space for everyone's benefit. You deserve only needles, filth, crime, and misery -- forever.
@17 "Ballard Commons was cleared in Dec 2021"
Which was before Harrell and Nelson took office, eviscerating your own attempted point. Congratulations, you played yourself.
@13 I wonder how many lives would have been saved if European Jews didn't flood into and start stealing the territory 80-ish years ago. History didn't start on 10/7/23 as much as your position depends on everyone believing it did.
@23 "eviscerating your own attempted point"
The point genius is that the park stayed clear after that sweep, unlike after the sweeps of that same park in 2019 and 2020.
@24: lol nobody stole anything. Israel is the indigenous and unceded homeland of the Jews and has been since forever. The Arabs had the chance to coexist in peace and sovereignty, but instead most of them preferred to try war. Plus ca change! 😂
@24: Of the great many benefits of this advancing peace, a very small -- yet very satisfying! -- one comes from watching you 'from the river to the sea' people mope, whine, and pout. Your precious, precious war is finally ending, but in a way you really, really don't like. After all of your caterwauling about deaths in Gaza, you can't (publicly) admit you'd rather have the war drag on than face the 'wrong' outcome, but it shows through anyway -- and it's delicious. Please keep up the good whine!
@22 "Unless you Solve Homelessness, Solve Crime -- and you solve those in the one and only "correct" progressive manner"
and let's be clear what that means. Seattle needs to have solutions for addiction, poverty and economic inequality, things that have existed as long as there have been people. Of course if Wilson fails (as she is destined to do) it will only be because we weren't extreme enough. Gonna be a fun four years.
@27: It was never about Gaza, it was never about a “genocide.” They thought this was their big chance to bring down the Jewish state. 😆 They were willing to throw the election to Trump to do it! 🤣 But it was all for nothing. Hamas flopped, and now the future of the “antizionist resistance” looks bleaker than ever. Even most Palestinian civilians are ready to try boring old peaceful coexistence, at least for a couple years! 🤣 No wonder the lefties are in a sulk! 😝
@25 ok "genius" but the reason that one worked is because city officials at the time (which did not include Harrell or Nelson) learned lessons and implemented a new strategy:
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/homeless/two-large-north-seattle-homeless-encampments-are-being-removed-this-week/
"The Ballard Commons and Bitter Lake removals are part of a new approach the city and its nonprofit contractors are trying — instead of posting notices for residents of large encampments saying they must disperse in days, outreach workers try to move them inside, leveraging new pandemic investments in shelter and housing.
...
Over the last three months, 42 people left the Ballard Commons encampment to new tiny house villages, 18 to shelters, and six to housing. Eleven people remained in the camp Tuesday morning when cleanup crews arrived and were forced to leave.
“The encampment removal lasted two-and-a-half months rather than two-and-a-half days,” said Dan Strauss, Ballard’s City Council member. “And the difference there means that people are being moved inside and trust is built and relationships are built, rather than displacement policies that create friction and animosity.”
@24
Gosh if only Egypt and transJordan hadn’t invaded Israel on May 15, 1948 then there would currently be a Palestinian state larger than Gaza and the West Bank combined.
But as @27 points out; for Nazis like you this was never about a free Palestine but was just an opportunity to kill Jews.
Considering that for the first 30 months of his time in office Mayor Harrell was hampered in his efforts to clear the encampments by the Martin v Boise ruling I think he has done a great job of cleaning up the city. And the effort has accelerated in the 15 months since the Grants Pass decision.
I would love to see his progress continue for the next four years.
@24: " I wonder how many lives would have been saved if European Jews didn't flood into and start stealing the territory..."
Yeah, if only there had been a concerted effort to end the very existence of all European Jews in the decade before Israel was even founded, then maybe we wouldn't have the problem of a vibrant democracy in the Middle East!
We can all see where you're going with this, and your eagerness to go there comes not merely from your blind ignorance of Israel's actual demographics and history. (Although, as always, ignorance remains your greatest strength.)
History didn't start in 1948, as much as your position depends on everyone believing it did.
@30: B-B-But sweeps only move homeless persons from one encampment in Seattle to another! (I have read this many times in the Stranger, so obviously it simply must be 100% true.) So why haven't Mayor Harrell's many sweeps caused another encampment on Ballard Commons?
@33: Even if it were true that sweeps “only” shifted homeless camps from one location to another, that still would be an argument in favor of sweeps. Shifting the camps distributes the burden of hosting the camps more evenly across the city, instead of forcing only certain blocks to bear the entire burden while the rest of the city bears none. Fairness! 😃
But obviously sweeps do more than just shift the camps. For one thing, sweeps provide a chance to conduct environmental cleanups; for another, sweeps are touch points to connect people with services who want them; and for another, sweeps are opportunities to arrest criminal suspects for whom warrants have been issued. 😄
No, sweeps don’t single-handedly solve homelessness, but neither does any other intervention. Homeless is a product of many factors both systemic and personal, and solving it will require efforts of various kinds at various levels … including sweeps! 😄
@13: "I wonder how many lives could have been saved had Hammas agreed to free all of the hostages 12 months ago, or 18, or 24."
Are you still pretending to care about the lives of Gazans? That's sooooooooooo 72 hours ago! ;-)
The Stranger, and all supportive commenters, have since moved on. Now, it's about blaming Israel's existence for all problems in that region. (OK, that's actually been the entire point for the two full years before 72 hours ago, but now they have no more war behind which to hide it.)
@30 Your link is from 2021 and doesn't explain why the park has stayed clear since then, it simply says that 3 months of coddling resulted in more campers taking up shelter offers than 3 days did. The park has stayed clear because the city has acted quickly whenever a new tent appears so it doesn't grow into an encampment. From 2024:
"Ballard Commons Park has stayed clear largely because of another type of removal, one in which the city’s laws allow it to move people without offering shelter if they are an “obstruction,” which the city defines as any tent that exists within a park.
Lori Baxter, a spokesperson for the mayor’s office, said the city learned the community had a particular interest in keeping Ballard Commons Park accessible, and said maintenance of this area “contributes to an improved relationship between housed and unhoused neighbors in Ballard.”
The city offers people shelter and provides advance notice of removals when possible, she said, but quickly addressing tents in the park prevents a full-scale encampment from forming, which would require a greater amount of limited city resources. "
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/homeless/why-is-there-so-much-homelessness-in-wealthy-ballard/
@35 don’t worry, it will take a couple days but they’ll pivot from genocide to apartheid. They need to find something before the 12th or Sawants big rally that she has been pimping on TS all week won’t have much to yell about.
@36 none of what you quoted was any new policy or unique to Harrell or Nelson. Also from the article:
"After the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention instructed cities to stop clearing encampments to prevent the spread of COVID-19, an encampment formed at the Ballard Commons"
So to recap: pandemic era policies caused the encampment to form, the city resolved it prior to Harrell or Nelson taking office, and it hasn't formed again thanks to policies that predate either of them. Your idea that Harrell or Nelson are responsible for cleaning up the Commons is incorrect and based on nothing. "Genius."
@37: oh god that’s right, Sawant is campaigning for congress on a platform of ending the “genocide.” 😆 Well, she must be a bigger Trump supporter than ever now with this peace plan! 🤣
Since when does this idiot refer to himself in the third person?
@40...
When they log into the wrong sock-puppet.
@40: “Since when does this idiot refer to himself in the third person?”
I have no idea when you started doing that 😂🤣😂🤣
@38 From the linked articles, (1) the Ballard Commons tents arrived after the clearing of the "jungle" in the mid to late teens, (2) the encampment grew during the pandemic, (3) sweeps occurred in 2019, 2020, and 2021, and (4) only after the Dec 2021 sweep was the park kept clear. Now, what changed after 2021? Its not hard to figure out.
"It was never
about Gaza, it was
never about a “genocide.”
They thought this
was their big chance
to bring down the Jewish state.
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--@thumpfsorna,
up there somewhere
above all his emojcons
nah.
taking
down the
Jewish State's
what nutnyahoo
and his fascist friends've
been working on, destroying
Israel - or at Least its standing on Earth
since about 10/10/23
making the Planet less and
LESS Safe for Jewish people (many who
HATE what the nutnyahoo's been doing in the ME).
WILL
Gazans
Soon Get
Respite from
Famine? From
Bombing? From
brutal Repression?
will they have
Free Travel in Gaza?
how about
Medicine?
How about
fucking
Water?
or must they
Wait until every
last Hamas has been
Eradicated?
@37, @39: Looks like our friends on the far left really are losing their favorite toy. From the WSJ:
“The Israeli military said Friday a cease-fire in Gaza went into effect at noon local time, setting the stage for the release of the remaining hostages and an influx of humanitarian aid into the territory.”
Well, once the world’s blame for starving Gazans shifted firmly with Hamas, it was no more fun to mention anyway.
I always blame TE Lawrence; he really shouldn't have went to Aqaba.
"... setting the stage for the
release of the remaining hostages
and an influx of humanitarian aid into the territory.”
--@the Wormtongue, Sincerely
the Stage is
Set, Charlie Brown
the Turkey's on the table
tho Thanksgiving comes but
Once a year Kick the ball if you're Able
here let
C. Bonespurs and
Loosey McNutnyahoo
Tee that bitch up for ya.
they're Exceedingly
Well-practiced
Snidley
Emoticons
if you Please
they've
gotten Away
with it for so Long
can they change their
Stripes? can a Worm
become a butterfly?
@43 "Now, what changed after 2021? Its not hard to figure out."
Ya, pandemic restrictions ended.
Remember:
bibi's facing
Serious Jail Time
should his War on Palestinians
pause long enough for Israel's (non-
fascist) Jews to catch their collective Breaths
and Remember
just Who's
Been In
Charge
so his
Motivation
for Devastation
has Not Gone Away
Nothing more despicable than someone who wants more bloodshed just so that he can say "I told you so".
confusing
/conflating
fascist Reality
with Bloodlust?
just
Another
koolie's dollar day!
bugger
Off bitch
correction:
confusing
/conflating
condemning
fascist Reality
with Bloodlust?
it's
just
Another
kkkoolie's dollar day!
where Projection
is De Rigueur
now back
to your regularly
scheduled Progrom!
@54: Gotcha! I wasn't specifically referring to you, but since you responded I guess I hit the nail on the head!
Oh, this is delicious. Talk about projection! LOL!
@52, @55: For the past two years, the Stranger and supportive commenters have been completely, utterly, totally wrong about everything and anything concerning Israel and war. The point on which they most achingly wanted to be proven right was the war in Gaza going badly — and ending worse — for Israel. Every other military action in the region already ended favorably for Israel, and now the war in Gaza is ending favorably for Israel as well. Our friends here just can’t take it. If even one little thing had gone their way, they might have some tiny consolation — but they have nothing. Nothing. (It’s not even the “genocide” they won’t stop proclaiming, either.)
So, having been proven completely wrong in every last one of their previous predictions, they immediately respond with very confident predictions about what will happen next. And what do they predict — IOW, what do they most desperately crave? — a resumption of the very bloodletting they previously claimed to oppose. If only the war would start again, then maybe this time, it wouldn’t end well for Israel! When it comes to all of those civilians they supposedly cared about, our friends here would rather watch more of them die, than accept a reality wherein Israel wins. That’s the type of people the Stranger and supportive commenters truly are, and they’re not happy in finally getting exposed as such.
"If only the war would start again... "
--thumpfnsorna on October 10, 2025 at 12:20 PM
the Wormtongue
projecting his
Desires out.
fucking.
LOUD.
@57: Every time you hurl a PROECT barb, it boomerangs on you. Let that sink in.
@58: Gawd, it's hilarious, watching this crowd become ever-more bitter as the peace deal moves slowly forward, crushing their hopes, without regard as about how THEY feel. Having accidentally admitted how much they hate any peace which contains favorable terms for Israel, they're left flailing around, ever-more-desperately trying to point their fingers at everyone else.
A truly pathetic end to a truly pathetic performance.
"A truly pathetic end to a truly pathetic performance."
--@thumpfnsorna on October 10, 2025 at 7:32 PM
@the Wormtongue
perpetually pushing
AIPAC, rubbing our Noses
in his/its Pro-Israeli Propaganda
their reichwing Narrative reaffixing Blame
to Any Where But Themselves
making it all about Opponents
of Genocide's Feelings. ok. how about
a Different, NON-AIPAC Approved take you ask*
"A truly pathetic end to a truly pathetic performance."
because, if You were the Wormtongue, the
Projecter, it'd Be Nothing more
than Performative
*ok, kristo, Thanks! -- Allow me:
Trump’s Sham Peace Plan
There will be no peace in Gaza.
Only the temporary absence of war.
There is no shortage of failed peace plans in occupied Palestine,
all of them incorporating detailed phases and timelines,
going back to the presidency of Jimmy Carter. They
end the same way. Israel gets what it wants initially
~in the latest case the release of the remaining
Israeli hostages!while it ignores and violates
every other phase until it resumes its
attacks on the Palestinian people.
It is a sadistic game.
A merry-go-round of death.
This ceasefire, like those of the past,
is a commercial break. A moment when the
condemned man is allowed to smoke a cigarette
before being gunned down in a fusillade of bullets.
Once Israeli hostages are released,
the genocide will continue. I do not know
how soon. Let’s hope the mass slaughter is delayed
for at least a few weeks. But a pause in the genocide
is the best we can anticipate. Israel is on the cusp of em-
ptying Gaza, which has been all but obliterated under two
years of relentless bombing. It is not about to be stopped.
This is the culmination of the Zionist dream.
The United States, which has given Israel
a staggering $22 billion in military aid
since Oct, 7, 2023, will not shut
down its pipeline, the only
tool that might halt
the genocide.
Israel,
as it always does,
will blame Hamas and
the Palestinians for failing
to abide by the agreement,
most probably a refusal~true
or not~to disarm, as the proposal
demands. Washington, condemning
Hamas’s supposed violation, will give
Israel the green light to continue its genocide
to create Trump’s fantasy of a Gaza Riviera and
“special economic zone” with its “voluntary” relo-
cation of Palestinians in exchange for digital tokens.
--by Chris Hedges; October 10, 2025
from The Chris Hedges Report
oodles:
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/trumps-sham-peace-plan
speaking of Wormtongues
and Performative "art."
continued from above:
Of the myriads of peace plans over the decades,
the current one is the least serious. Aside from
a demand that Hamas release the hostages
within 72-hours after the ceasefire begins,
it lacks specifics and imposed timetables.
It is filled with caveats that allow
Israel to abrogate the agreement.
And that is the point.
It is not designed to be a viable path to peace,
which most Israeli leaders understand.
Israel’s largest-circulation newspaper,
Israel Hayom, established by the late
casino magnate Sheldon Adelson
to serve as a mouthpiece for
Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu and champ-
ion messianic Zionism,
instructed its readers
not to be concerned about the
Trump plan because it is only “rhetoric.”
oodles:
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/trumps-sham-peace-plan
speaking of thumpfnsorna
and Empty rhetoric but
I repeat myself: They-
re the One and
the Same.
a slight correction of a typo made in the pasting:
"They end the same way. Israel gets what it wants initially
~in the latest case the release of the remaining
Israeli hostages~while it ignores and violates
every other phase until it resumes its
attacks on the Palestinian people."
fixed.
apologies!
oh
and
regardless
of what tS's
reichwing contingent
Claims, I get no Joy out of
Israel resuming its Lopsided War
on Palestine -- that's how THEY feel.
but Not those of Us Opposed
to Israel's Ongoing
Genocidal
Massacre
cum Landgrab
cum Forced Starvation
"Gawd,
it's hilarious,
watching this crowd
become ever-more bitter
as the peace deal moves slowly forward,
crushing their hopes, without regard as about how THEY feel.
A truly pathetic end to a truly pathetic performance."
--@thumpfnsorna on October 10, 2025 at 7:32 PM
"Why aren't the Free Palestine people cheering about the ceasefire?"
If you saw a man beating a child into a coma, would you cheer after the beating stopped? No, your first reaction would be horror at what happened and your second would be fear that he'll attack the kid again.
--@Caitlin Johnstone; @caitoz.bsky.social
·
but they're not Cheering!
but they're not Cheering!
but they're not Cheering!
yeah
we Heard ya
the First Time, wormmy:
"A truly pathetic end to a truly pathetic performance."
Promise us there'll
be More, worm-
my?
"Even if the ceasefire holds,
we're still going to see the results
of months of starvation conditions,
which means more death caused by the
country that now wants us to applaud their restraint."
--jACAB; @jacabovermyhead.bsky.social
'SIFF announced on Thursday morning that they're ending their lease with the Egyptian. The movie theater has been closed since a pipe burst and flooded the building in 2024, and in a press release, the nonprofit said that reopening "would not have contributed to SIFF's long-term organizational stability." Seattle Central still owns the building, but it's not clear what'll happen to it yet.'
Sadly, this may well be the end of the line for that fine old movie palace. The land is certainly worth more than the building, and the repair cost for an unreinforced masonry structure in an earthquake zone would be prohibitive anyway.
But what memories! The packed house rising as one to our feet at the end of "Ghost World," with Daniel Clowes and Thora Birch in attendance. Christopher Nolan's "Memento" had the Seattle premiere there. The Midnight Film Fest, the Secret Film Fest, all that SIFF brought. SIFF extended the Egyptian's service life, first by providing excellent programming when the Egyptian was externally owned, then by taking over operations directly.
Another great piece of Seattle slides into memory, never to be experienced by anyone growing up there now.
A truly pathetic end to a truly great performance.