Comments

1

so
rfkjr's
Worm
died of
Starvation?

poor little thing.
tho it wouldda gotten
the Bovine Disease from
El trumpfster's gray matter

and it mightta
even Helped
Uncle Joe
but now

we'll
never
Know.

Vote
for Joe
Anyway!

let's us keep
the Abyss
Waiting

2

I thought AF1 usually landed at Boeing Field.

The cognitively addled ancient man I'm voting for is Biden. He's the least addled, and there's no other choice.

4

@3: Biden likes the Beecher's mac and cheese in Concourse C.

6

Hollingsworth abstained from the Reduce the Minimum Wage vote?

How very Tulsi Gabbard of her.

7

@3 I remember the days when Obama would make frequent pit stops in Hunts Point or Medina and then land in SeaTac, tying up I-90, I-405, I-5, and SR-520 for 2 hours during rush hour.

And, just like Joe Biden today, the event wasn’t even open to the public. It was just a cash grab and go.

Hillary and Joe seem to do less campaigning in Seattle. I’ve seen Bernie (on multiple occasions) and Liz Warren here holdinv public campaign rallies, but never Hillary, Joe, or Obama.

8

Right, raindork. Traffic caused by the funder of a genocide and traffic caused by citizens demanding that it stop is all the same in self-obsessed raindork world.
Keep on slurping up that AIPAC propaganda, raindork.

10

@5, 8: you'll both get your wish today.

"...there is currently a planned protest at Westlake Center on Saturday, May 11th beginning at 2 PM. A march is expected, but there is no known route for this event."

11

@8: But it would be more efficient if we did both at once. Also, if someone dies in an ambulance stuck in the traffic, his old-guy friends and protester-aged children can blame Biden, whilst his wife and friends can blame the protesters. Win all around!

12

"Northern Lights Might Be Visible in Seattle"

That is, if every street light burns out, if everybody shuts off all the lights in their house ( and porch lights, too ), and there's a power failure everywhere within 200 miles of the city. Oh, and car headlights, too.

What they mean by "might".

13

@7: I saw Obama at Hec-Ed in 2010.

15

Isn't it hilarious how The Stranger has spiked all but the most cursory reference to the massive school closure coming up? It's almost like they were hiding from endorsing the people who are doing this, while pissy Rich and the Hannah performance art collective did a video laughing at the very idea of closures.

Not a good look kidz.

18

@8 In fairness, in both cases people tend to sum up with their pejorative(s) of choice and ignore the message being sent.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

19

Israel is bombing Rafah and Biden's grabbing cash from billionaires. Fuck Biden. I hope he loses BIG and gets a huge reality check that takes down his arrogance and destroys his sense of self-importance. Maybe next time the Democrats will put forth a candidate who is not a Zionist, not a genocidal psychopath, and maybe, just maybe, someone who is under the age of 60. What a fucking concept.

20

@19: Can you name one viable Dem who is not a Zionist - that being someone who believes Israel should exist? Ilhan Omar is not a viable Presidential candidate.

Even Jayapal and AOC are probably Zionists to some degree - they both probably accept that Israel DOES exist and isn't going anywhere.

21

Israel has a right to exist - progressives backing its elimination (like @19) will do nothing but strengthen the right wing (try to remember who moved the US embassy to Jerusalem - it wasn’t a democrat). And keep bashing Biden all you want (if you think he gives a f - he’ll be just fine, like every other rich, white, hetero, male).

Purity!!!!!

22

@19 Xena, I used to think you were one of the smart people here, but with this post, you have proven you are either more stupid, or more selfish, that Raindrop. You just showed that you don't actually give a shit for the Palestinian people, and are just another member of the Loony Left that wants to exploit them for your ideological goals. I agree that Biden has not done all that he should for the Palestinians. We probably agree a lot on what we want him to do. Thing is, unlike you, I am not seeing this through a lens dominated by ideology. So I can recognize that while I don't think Biden has done enough, I'm pleasantly surprised by what he did, because he's the first US president to try to put any limits on US aid.

I am also, unlike you, living in the real world. After the next election, America will have one of two men in the White House, Joe Biden or Donald Trump. So when you are saying you want Joe Biden to lose the election over Palestine, you are showing just how truly selfish you are. You think what is happening now is a genocide? What do you think happens to the Palestinians if Trump wins? Trump will gladly let Netanyahu wipe Gaza clean, as long as he cuts Trump a generous deal to develop resorts on the Mediterranean coast. So you are actually promoting the path to a far more total genocide. Which i guess is fine for you, as you will cherish their sacrifice for advancing your revolution. Just as the LGBTQ+ and immigrant communities Trump's White Nationalist regime will slaughter will be more blood you will be willing to wash of your hands.

23

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/10/college-campus-protests-far-right

Re: campus protests outside agitators
Food for thought

24

@21 Zena is part of the Loony Left, and not an actual progressive. Progressives may not like how Biden is handling Gaza, but recognize that even if he were to be as bad at Israel as Obama, he will still be better than an authoritarian like Trump would be. In fact, real progressives are upset with Biden because we recognize he's actually shown more backbone in talking the Netanyahu that any other POTUS before him.

25

@21: If the Stranger and supportive commenters actually stopped virtue-signalling on Gaza for even a hot second, they might accidentally notice some things:

“…the poll also found support for Israel to continue its military operation into the city of Rafah, where many Palestinian civilians have fled to after Israel’s offensive began. Israeli leaders have said that Hamas militants are in the city.

More than 70 percent of respondents said Israel should move forward with the operation, including 57 percent of those 18 to 24 and increasing percentages with each older age group.”

(https://thehill.com/policy/international/4629597-americans-israel-hamas-gaza-student-protests-poll/amp/)

So, Israel’s assault upon Rafah has support of over two-thirds of the American registered voters surveyed in this poll. Pushing Biden to interfere with it would not only fail to have any effect upon Israel’s behavior, and antagonize Israelis, but also antagonize registered voters in an election year. It’s hard to imagine Trump, or any other Republican, not hollering about how the Democratic President is soft on terror.

By pushing Biden on this, the Stranger and other purists are simply making it more likely Trump will get back into office. Think Biden didn’t try to restrain Israel hard enough? Watch President Trump, feeling totally vindicated and not eligible for re-election. He’d probably order a carrier group to the Med’, just to have us bomb Gaza ourselves.

27

@20-22- A Xina-nist (unlike most Zionists, for all their faults) is one who is so bitter and hateful towards the rest of us that they joyfully await the destruction of our entire country and all those in it. Or, failing that, the re-coronation of Donald Trump. The latter of which is pretty much guaranteed to bring about the former. And, as a bonus, would result in Netan-yahoo exterminating every last one of the Palestinians that our beloved yet spiteful commentator professes to care so much about.

28

A whistleblower report from inside he prison camps run by The Most Moral Army In The World(tm). Who could have predicted that Israel would abuse detainees? And not treat them in accordance with their own laws? And hold them long after they were cleared of Hamas ties? Hardly seems possible, unless you were paying attention.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd/index.html

29

I hope I can get a good look at the Northern Lights this evening!

@12 AgentSmith 2: Thanks for the reminder to shut off indoor and outdoor lights tonight.

@20 Max Solomon, @22 Greenwood Bob, and @27 dvs99: Thank you. I didn't know what to add. You covered it.
Heaven help us all if the Orange Turd illegally reseizes the White House!

31

@30 Only to the hypocrites. Hamas makes no secret of being a bunch of shitheads. Israels pretends they're moral while doing the opposite. I'd have more respect for Israel if they'd just come out and say that they're going to be a bunch of shitheads too. Of course, that might impede there arms supply.

I guess we'll have to chalk you up as pro-prisoner abuse then.

32

Someone blocking the freeway in protest is not terrorism braindropped.

33

"The climate situation is so bleak that 'a fifth of female climate scientists said they have opted to have no or fewer children,'"

So..... 80% of female climate scientists have opted to have many children against the 20% choosing none or fewer. This is newsworthy because....?

35

Biden will win the election and SCOTUS will continue to burn down the country, destroying the Constitution one lawsuit at a time. Doesn't matter who is in the WH, SCOTUS and their corrupt, MAGA agenda and all of the federal judges appointment when Trump was squatting in the WH will make sure that the country is annihilated. I'd say it's cute that so many people think voting for Biden will accomplish anything, but it won't and it isn't cute it's fucking terrifying how incomprehensible stupid and blind people are to the reality we are all facing.

36

@34 shorter. Ahab believes in the Outback Steakhouse theory of war. No rules, just right. No matter that Israel explicitly agreed to rules when they signed on to a number of treaties.

If Israel didn’t care about international opinion or their own arms supply, why do they keep pitching hissy fits any time anyone calls them on their bullshit?

38

@37 I think you meant majority and not plurality.

41

xina dear, then who SHOULD we be voting for, in your estimation? Being a moral scold with no suggestions as to how to make things better makes one a tedious person.

42

@30. Projection.

43

@34. Ahab Steakhouse.
No rules, just right.

44

@36. Lmao, I hasn't even read your comment before posting 43 and that was literally my exact thought. Great minds and all that.

Again, I challenge Ahab to apply his logic to the Holocaust. Seed ta jicy pifiction! Christ.

45

@39 And you even managed to back yourself into the truth.

"Because they want whatever P.R. value that goes with being seen to be committed to them, with parties outside the conflict."

Israel signed those treaties because that was part and parcel of being one of the Good Guys. A nation concerned with the rule of law. Civilized. One of Us to the West. And now that is slipping. Israel can't be a prosperous nation if it's one of the Bad Guys, like Belarus or Iran. There are massive political and economic consequences to losing Good Guy status.

You keep talking about war being politics by other means. and that wars continue until combatants lose the ability or will to continue the fight. What you miss is that the will to fight has many dimensions. Losing your international standing is a major political cost that Israel now has to weigh. In the bluntest terms, war is a tool used to make strategic gains.

Defeating Hamas and becoming a pariah state is a tactical victory and a strategic loss.
Defeating Hamas while Palestine becomes a viable state would be a tactical victory and a strategic loss to Netanyahu.

Russia learned this the hard way in Ukraine. There have been tactical victories, but major strategic losses, particularly in the strengthening and expansion of NATO. At what point will Netanyahu cut his strategic losses even if it means not gaining every tactical victory?

And yes, it's clear that it's Ahab's Steakhouse. You talk about what is allowed by the laws of armed conflict, but you don't actually care when it comes down to it. Cruelty and destruction are a benefit, not a drawback.

46

Bingo
Boatgeek
and Garbby too

nyt:
Isolated
and Defiant,
Israel Vows to ‘Stand
Alone’ in War on Hamas

As the death toll in Gaza has risen, countries have turned their backs on Israel. The consequences of those desertions, from security to economics, risk turning Israel into a pariah.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/11/world/middleeast/isolated-israel-war-hamas.html

so it Looks like you’re
getting Your wish
Wormtongue
& even el
Cap'n
too.

47

"At what point
will Netanyahu cut
his strategic losses even if
it means not gaining every tactical victory?"

at the point of a gun apparently
'cause the moment his "War"
on Palestinians's Over is
when nutnyahoo's
Forced into Court
for his many and
Multiple corrupt-
ions and Gazans
may yet breathe
Again. let's pray
it becomes So
and fucking
SOON.

48

You know how you realize later what you should have said an hour after you posted? Yeah.

Ahab's Steakhouse: No rules, just might.

50

@48

whoever's packin'
the biggest meat hook
pepper Grinder or concealed
carry sawed-off Shotgun is whom
makes the Rules. it's just Nature's Way!

now; will you be having
the baked, or the
French-fried?

bibi's
Gotta
GO.*

fucking
BEFORE
Gaza's GONE

*Please depose
bibi, Planet -
in JAIL and
far AWAY
from All
WMDs

Thank you!

51

looks like you’re in Excellent
Company xina - here’s
two* from Twain:

“Whoever
has lived Long
enough to find out
what Life is, knows how
Deep a debt of Gratitude we owe
to Adam, the first great Benefactor of
our race: He brought Death into the World.”

two

“I’ve been
Reading the
Morning paper.
I do it every morning,
well-knowing that I shall
find in it the usual Depravities
and Baseness and Hypocrisies &
Cruelties that make up Civilization
& causes me to put in the Rest of the
day pleading for the Damnation of the

human race.”

to call us
‘human’ may
be a Bit of a stretch
but at Least we Know
we Have that Capacity.

small Wonder
you Post as
you Do.

you
Still
Rock.

*another one, which he claimed
as his Fave is Personal Recollections
of Joan of Arc perhaps worth a read &
I'd LOVE to see it someday on the Bigscreen.

52

"Sloggers,
I love you,
and I’m sorry, but
this just isn’t a genocide."
--@teddycommieetc

the sincerity of your Apology
stunning the brazenness of
it alarming and the Shield
of Palestinians dwindling
as the IDF mows its way
to, what, Genocide Lite?

on OUR
Fucking
Dime!?

the ICJ told 'em to
Back the Fuck OFF but
they just doubled and trebled
and quadrupled their way Down
the Septic Hole & treat Palestinians
like a plague of Rats or worse, Destroying
most of their Homes ALL of their Schools and
Starving them to DEATH their Medicinry Vanished
Thousands left Screaming under the Rubble 25,OOO
SOULS women and children screaming for their Lives who
can be deaf to this? and then Justify it because hamas? well

you and bibi and a few others
but This Planet is FAR from
Convinced: you're on the
Wrong side of History.

53

The only way this ends without additional suffering is a negotiated surrender by Hamas. A ceasefire occurs as part of that surrender. The deal - cessation of hostilities, release of all remaining Israeli hostages in exchange for a release of Hamas prisoners who, together with Sinwar and his besieged soldiers are evacuated by ship out of Gaza and out of the theater. Hamas formerly renounces it claim of governance over Gaza.

Then, and only then, does a world of opportunities arise. By insisting on a ceasefire where Hamas retains power, however, is quite possibly the worst possible outcome for anyone hoping for a durable peace. And there's the rub...anyone hoping for a durable peace.

Shockingly, the two major organizations involved with the student protest movement (Students for Justice in Palestine, Within Our Lifetime) maintain an eliminationist position regarding Israel. Here is an SJP document, for example; https://dw-wp-production.imgix.net/2023/10/DAY-OF-RESISTANCE-TOOLKIT.pdf

The language and goals of those groups, frankly, should be a matter for the FBI, never mind universities dedicated to a safe environment for their students. And for the rest of us, encountering individuals espousing views this vile ought to engender the same kind of disdain as one would if a pointy hatted Klansman sauntered into your local cafe.

55

"War is the abandonment of principles in favor of might-makes-right.

War is a utilitarian, not a moral exercise."

Ahab, your political philosophy is a bit raw. For enrichment, write a critique of the perspective of Vitoria (following Thomas Aquinas) and his understanding of natural law and the law of nations (ius gentium) from the perspective of Hobbes’s theory of natural law (in general and in its application to international relations);

OR, write the opposite: a critique of Hobbes’s theory of natural law (in general and in its application to international relations) from the perspective of Vitoria (following Thomas Aquinas) and his understanding of natural law and the law of nations (ius gentium).

Compare and contrast the role religion should have in influencing foreign policy according to the views of Shaybani, Vitoria, and the Melians (as presented in the Melian dialogue with the Athenians in Thucydides).

Two of the most complete articulations of the conception of might and right among nations held by sophisticated Athenians are the speech given by the nameless Athenian ambassadors at Sparta before the war (Bk. 1, secs. 73ff.), and the speeches given by the nameless Athenian representatives in the dialogue with the Melian leadership (Bk. 5, end): compare and contrast the most important ways in which EITHER Montesquieu OR Kant would agree with and criticize the Athenian outlook.

How would Kant, Vitoria, and Hobbes agree and how would they disagree about the role of punishment in international relations. What reasons and/or evidence would each use to support his outlook?

Compare and contrast the views of Hobbes, Montesquieu, and Kant on international relations as a “state of war”: how these thinkers agree and how do they disagree about this framework and its normative implications for how nations ought to behave?

Compare and contrast in what situations and why empire (an imperialist foreign policy) is justified morally, and when it is not, according to Vitoria, Montesquieu, and Kant.

Use the questions as opportunities to show how much and how well you know the assigned texts and authors. As much as you can, support your answer with specific references to the texts, giving evidence for the views that you attribute to the different thinkers. You will be evaluated on how well you understand the differing viewpoints of the thinkers and how well you support your understanding with textual evidence.

56

@41 the whole point is people are telling ME to vote for Biden. I don't care who you vote for as I have stated repeatedly that IT DOES NOT MATTER. SCOTUS and the federal judiciary will mete out the MAGA agenda no matter who is in the White House. This country's decision to allow Trump to be considered as a candidate and then put up Biden AGAIN (Biden was always only a way out of Trump squatting the White House) is the failure of this country as a whole. The Democrats made a shit ton of promises when running in 2020 and they have not kept those promises. So here we are - with two hideous options - traitor and lifelong criminal or war criminal (violating United States law and International law by continuing to arm and fund Israel).

59

@52: “… and then Justify it because hamas?”

Yes, Hamas using Gazans for human shields is the reason Gazans are dying in such numbers. NATO explained this to everyone years before 10/7, and yet each and every time this well-documented and long-known fact gets referenced here, you serial abusers of the word “genocide” express total surprise at it.

Why, it’s almost as if you don’t want to know.

“I didn't even need to OPEN the Article.”

kristofarian on April 26, 2024 at 7:30 PM

(https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2024/04/26/79486399/slog-am-women-employees-sue-spd-us-birth-rate-declines-forceful-police-response-at-campus-protests/comments/28)

61

@58 it’s always interesting to see evolution in action. A couple of months ago, you were all “Israel is following the rules!” Now it’s “There are no rules!”

It’s almost like you have no consistent ideology other than that whatever Israel does is right. Weird.

62

@59

yep
wormmy
supporting
aiding and abetting
a Genocide is Precisely
Equal tp reading the Subheading
and knowing the kid’s Recantation
isn’t worth my time. are you truly That
pathetic? That’s one of those ‘rehetorical’
questions meaning your answer ain’t Required.

now
haven’t
you got some
puppies needing noeming?

63

@53 Do those cease fire conditions also include that every Israeli child gets a pony? Because they have about as much chances of happening as Little Olivia does of getting her entire birthday wish list.

Up to an unconditional surrender, there is a negotiation and neither side gets everything they want. Getting Has to an unconditional surrender will cost Israel dearly in every other one of their strategic goals.

I suppose that’s OK with you as long as you get to live out your fever dreams of Crimea against humanity by proxy.

64

FFS. Crimes.

65

@37 and @57: A GENUINELY stolen election like the ones in 2001, 2004, and 2016, and a criminally insane party of neofascists out to pardon the Orange Turd for over 91 criminal indictments, including HIGH TREASON is not democracy, and I do not abide by it. The Orange Turd is no president, but a heartless, wasteful, psychopathic con man and global terrorist. All the RepubliKKKan Party of Turd is doing is exactly what they are wrongly accusing the Democrats of doing, and profiteering off of it at the Earth's and everyone else's expense. I wouldn't gloat if I were you.
If the Orange Turd reseizes KKKontrol of the White House it will be illegally, and because its KKKrime syndicate obliterated what was once a functioning fair, impartial, and legally operated judicial system. Its bought and paid for howler monkeys, Aileen Cannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Kristi Noem, and Amy Coney Barrett among other GOP trash willfully chomp the Orange Turd's pathetic little 'shroom, stubbornly convinced it's going to actually save their asses.
By the way, I wouldn't brag about owning anyone, democratic voter, liberal, or otherwise.
The Orange Turd already owns you, and it's laughing its fat, white ass off at you and all the other equally gullible MAGAts it is currently conning into paying off its trial lawyers.
Now go eat your paste before you really start to crack up, raindrop dear.

@38 boatgeek: +1 Thank you.

@41 Catalina Vel-DuRay:+1 for the WIN!!!

@56 xina: I'm not telling you to do anything. Obviously, you're going to do what you choose to do, xina.
One question, though. Could you live with the Orange Turd gleefully defacating on our once vibrant, efficiently run country, squatting in the White House FOR LIFE, and selling all of us cheap to Vladimir Putin? I sure couldn't.

Now everyone please pardon Griz while I go outside for more warmly welcome sunshine, fresh air, take a walk, play some music, watch a movie, and look up into the clear sky for the reported spectacular Aurora Borealis.

66

Two last comments before I exit the comment thread:

@42 CDizzle (Garb Garblar?) and @46 kristofarian: +2 Thank you both, too.

67

@62: The subhead told you he'd recanted, which you'd desperately waved around to 'prove' the story wasn't exactly what everyone told you it was: a student leader of the pro-Palestine protests at Columbia University getting banned from that campus, for his repeatedly employing eliminationist rhetoric. Because, as @53 noted, "...the two major organizations involved with the student protest movement (Students for Justice in Palestine, Within Our Lifetime) maintain an eliminationist position regarding Israel." Student leaders of the pro-Palestinian protests have eliminationist goals, which is why eliminationist rhetoric keeps spewing forth from pro-Palestinian protests.

Luckily, you who oppose "genocide" do not ever concern yourselves with the eliminationist rhetoric which spews forth from pro-Palestinian protests, because to the absolute limits of your historical knowledge, spewing eliminationist rhetoric has never, ever led to a genocide. Right?

@63: "Getting Has to an unconditional surrender will cost Israel dearly in every other one of their strategic goals."

Hamas has demonstrated it is an existential threat to Israel. Therefore, Israel has no higher strategic goal than destroying Hamas. You "ceasefire" people really need to understand this. The Israelis do not care what you think, and no amount of your voting "uncommitted" will make them care. The U.S. will not cut off aid to Israel, and no amount of your voting "uncommitted" will make the U.S. cut off aid to Israel.

68

@67 At the height of Hamas' power, they killed 1200 people in Israel. That is not an existential threat to a nation of 9.5 million people. If they were an existential threat, Netanyahu would have treated them as such and not allowed their suitcases of cash to enter the Gaza Strip. You of all people should recognize that. You keep saying that Israel isn't killing enough people in Gaza to count as a genocide. Well golly gee, that logic applies the other direction, too. If the words of Hamas' genocidal intent, completely absent the means, count as an existential threat, then the threats against the civilian population of Gaza by Israeli ministers does as well. Particularly since Israel actually has the means to kill every man, woman, and child in Gaza. Do you really want to go there?

If Israel won't ever get cut off from US aid, why is the latest delivery from Boeing still held up by the White House? What you need to understand is that being cut off is already happening. No amount of shaking your fist at clouds is going to change that, old man.

71

ok wormmy

If German Jews had
killed 1200 non-Jewish
Germans, would the Holocaust
still have been a murderous Genocide?

why wouldn't Germany
get a Pass from
you?

72

@68: "If they were an existential threat, Netanyahu would have treated them as such..."

This does not mean Hamas is not an existential threat to Israel. It means Netanyahu is not very good at his job.

"You keep saying that Israel isn't killing enough people in Gaza to count as a genocide."

No, what I have been saying is that if Israel actually had the genocidal intent Hamas has, then the death toll in Gaza would be far higher. The civilian death toll in Gaza is as high as it is because Hamas keeps hiding terrorists behind civilians in Gaza, not because of any genocidal intent by Israel.

"...then the threats against the civilian population of Gaza by Israeli ministers does as well."

Your analogy makes no sense. Israel has the means to kill everyone in Gaza. That they have not done so, or even attempted to do so, is evidence those ministers' statements are not guiding Israeli government policy.

"If Israel won't ever get cut off from US aid, why is the latest delivery from Boeing still held up by the White House?"

Because you don't know the difference between "cut off" and "held up"?

(Also, stopping a Boeing shipment is a threat now? To do what, exactly? Keep the IDF safe from weapons which won't work, or might even blow up in their face?)

"What you need to understand is that being cut off is already happening."

"The United States has provisionally agreed (via a memorandum of understanding) to provide Israel with nearly $4 billion a year through 2028, and U.S. lawmakers are considering billions of dollars in supplementary funding for Israel amid its war with Hamas." (https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts)

Little doubt the Israeli military is just a-quakin' in their boots at your threat of a cut-off.

"No amount of shaking your fist at clouds is going to change that, old man."

My comments about the impotence of voting "uncommitted" really struck a nerve, didn't they? (It hurts because it's true...)

73

Diet Genocidal Intent
The choice of an old generation

75

from Notes From The Edge
Of The Narrative Matrix:

When
Your Rulers
Ignore Voters
But Are Terrified Of
Protesters, That Tells You Something

Politico reports that the DNC is planning to move the Chicago convention partially online in order to “tamp down demonstrators” against Biden’s genocide in Gaza.

The Democratic Party’s apathy toward this election is almost as blatant as its support for police crackdowns on political dissent.

When nobody in power will lift a finger to earn your vote but they’re falling all over themselves trying to stomp out a robust protest movement, that tells you what the powerful are actually afraid of and where you should really be focusing your political energy.

Your votes don’t matter [sometimes they Do], but your activism does. These freaks are terrified that one day the people will stop playing with the toy steering wheel of voting that they were given to divert their political energy and use the power of their numbers to grab the real steering wheel.

If I were Jewish
I would be enraged
that the world’s most
powerful governments
and the world’s most influential
media outlets keep telling everyone
over and over again that opposing mass murder is anti-Jewish.

--by Caitlin Johnstone; May 12, 2024

more:
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/when-your-rulers-ignore-voters-but

uncommitted’s
what Finally put
the Fear into Joe

or did he just Wake Up
one Day and say, ‘oh,
hey, maybe Geno-
cide’s NOT ok’?

'cause ol'
Joe's made
Quite the turn-
around as of Late.

76

@75: Little wonder we love her! She continues to spin comedy gold!

"...robust protest movement..."

That will totally be around when the students leave campus for Summer. Because St. Ralph has so ordered.

(Or must it remain "robust" because Johnstone just can't get herself enough good ol' fashioned eliminationism on campus? Protocols aweigh!)

"uncommitted’s
what Finally put
the Fear into Joe"

Someone in Seattle voted "uncommitted!" The sky, it falls!

"'cause ol'
Joe's made
Quite the turn-
around as of Late"

As you can read up-thread, he's delayed one shipment of arms.

From Boeing.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha... that oughta scare Bibi!

77

WOW

78

WOW
wormmy
you just Proved
Protesting don't make
no Difference! & that smokin'
Joe's Always been an Humanitarian
at Heart if not in Actions. you Win again!

meanwhile
Israel heads
straight into
the Abyss and your
Cheerleading'll certainly go
Down in History as a Big Help
to bibi & to Genociders Planetwide

79

"When nobody in power will lift a finger to earn your vote but they’re falling all over themselves trying to stomp out a robust protest movement, that tells you what the powerful are actually afraid of and where you should really be focusing your political energy."

when ole Wormtongue
tells you that sumpthin'
ain't Nuthin you Know
you're barking up the
Correct tree. keep it
UP, Students -- You
are the Conscience
of this Country

no Wonder
they Hate you

80

@78: "you just Proved
Protesting don't make
no Difference!"

It wasn't me:

'Mark Penn, the co-director of the poll, said support for Israel “has not budged” despite the “campus unrest.” He said the student protests appear out of step with broader public attitudes on Israel and noted that the poll showed Americans largely want a cease-fire in the war but only after Hamas is removed from power and the hostages they seized during its Oct. 7 attack on Israel are returned.'

How much support for Israel was that, exactly?

"The Harvard CAPS-Harris survey shared with The Hill showed 80 percent of registered voters said they support Israel more in the war, while 20 percent said they support Hamas more. That is about in line with the poll’s findings from last month, when 79 percent indicated they support Israel more."

Ooooh, look: it appears the student protesters DID move the needle a tiny bit: American voters' support for Israel INCREASED by 1% over the time of the campus protests. Feel the Ralph!

(https://thehill.com/policy/international/4629597-americans-israel-hamas-gaza-student-protests-poll/#:~:text=The%20Harvard%20CAPS%2DHarris%20survey,indicated%20they%20support%20Israel%20more.)

"keep it
UP, Students -- You
are the Conscience
of this Country"

From @53, here's a big ol' sloppy slice of their "conscience." Please let us know how much you agree with it:

"On the 50th anniversary of the 1973 war, the resistance in Gaza launched a surprise operation against the Zionist enemy which disrupted the very foundation of Zionist settler society. On the morning of October 8th, the Palestinian resistance stormed the illegitimate border fence, gaining control of the Gaza checkpoint at Erez, and re-entering 1948 Palestine. Referred to as Operation Towfan Al-Aqsa (Al-Aqsa Flood), the resistance has taken occupation soldiers hostage, fired thousands of rockets, taken over Israeli military vehicles, and gained control over illegal Israeli settlements."

That's how the "National Students for Justice in Palestine" described Hamas' murders of children in their homes, rapes and murders of unarmed women in the streets, and abduction of civilians into hostages. That's what the leaders of the pro-Palestinian protests believe. Don't believe it? Scroll all the way down to the bottom, and you'll see the template image which was used for the Seattle protests in October -- you know, the one featuring the Hamas' gunman in the paraglider, attacking civilians in Israel.

81

is That
the wind?

82

@78, @79, @81:

"At the same time, the poll also found support for Israel to continue its military operation into the city of Rafah, where many Palestinian civilians have fled to after Israel’s offensive began. Israeli leaders have said that Hamas militants are in the city.

"More than 70 percent of respondents said Israel should move forward with the operation, including 57 percent of those 18 to 24 and increasing percentages with each older age group."

The student protesters' age group was the one with the lowest support for Israel, yet still showed a solid majority supporting Israel's invasion of Rafah.

The student protesters failed to carry a majority in their own age group.

Ouch.

83

ok wormmy. your
Apologia for the Propagandists
is duly noted as's your Fealty to fascism.

happy
Mother's day.

84

@83: Yes, calling out eliminationist rhetoric as objectionable is the very essence of fascism.

As far as you know the word.

Happy Mother’s Day to you, too!

86

@85: You're correct, of course, but they've been yelling those words at each other here continually for seven-plus months now, and so they're not receptive to actual external reality -- especially with all of reality's attendant pesky nuance, which, to them, always seems to go the wrong way. (This, of course, simply increases their resentful hostility toward it.)

For my part, I've yet to tire of explaining to them that they're not only wrong from the standpoint of international law, but also that the vast majority of American voters do not agree with them. Throw in the eliminationist stance of the organizers behind the student protests, and it makes for quite the heady cocktail. ;-)

87

@75 Caitlin Johnstone is a known Russian agent of influence. Her only value is as an indicator of how Putin wants to disrupt the West.


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